Muppet Wiki talk:Archibald's List

We've looked at the "Someone the Something" naming issue; we are looking at "The Someone" kind of name problems, and briefly discussed having just plain "Something" for a name. The last common unofficial type of name convention popping up on the wiki is the Someone's Something.

Many Muppet relatives don't have names. When we don't know the names, we've given relatives names based on their relation to others (i.e. Fozzie's Uncle when he's really only referred to as "my uncle" by Fozzie or "your uncle" by Kermit and isn't in the credits). Unless there an official source for their name or title (such as Emily Bear, Grover's Mommy, or Daddy Snuffle) then I think we should use a standard naming convention of being so-and-so's whatever (like Elmo's Mom, Cookie Monster's Sister or Fozzie's Uncle). Because a character such as Oscar's Mom (who could be called "Mrs. Grouch", "Oscar's Ma", "Oscar's Mother", "Oscar's Mommy", "Mother Grouch"...) I think we should go with the full (and more formal) Mother, Father, Brother, Aunt, Grandmother, Dog... (unless we have proof of the character being Mommy, Pa, Bro, Auntie, Grandma, Doggy or whatever).

I think a name that includes the possessive (as long as the first name is legitimate) should count as a valid name. We aren't misrepresenting with the title of Cookie Monster's Mother (even if her real name is, say, Francine or later we learn it's "Cookie Monster's Ma"). No one is taking that as a name, but rather a relationship. Even if names like Delta or Louie arise, we were never making up a name, we just weren't using one (we were listing them by a relationship as a place holder for a name). I don't think we'll be leading fans astray by presenting her name as "Elmo's Mother" -- unlike something like "The Sexy Muppet" "Typewriter Guy"or "Loud Old Pink Boppity Woman" could. This would get them out of "Unnamed" and we'd have a system for them -- until (and if) we find "real" or more solid names for one of these characters. -- Brad D. (talk ) 11:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)