User:Toughpigs/Talk Archive 31

Archive of Danny's talk page.

Block reason
Thanks for explaining what happens when a person gets blocked. Does Wikia have an age limit? I always wonder if they would have turned down you and me if the Internet had existed in the late '70's! -- Ken (talk ) 02:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, technically you're not supposed to be under 13. Websites that are designed for young kids have safeguards to make sure they're not approached by stalkers and bad people; we don't have anything like that, so we don't want to put little kids at risk. Also, most of them can't spell.


 * When that kid is old enough to be here, it'll be great to have her. Until then, I hope she keeps reading and enjoying wikis! -- Danny (talk ) 02:56, January 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikia, as with any other website with servers in the United States of America, is bound to United States laws, one of which is COPPA. It states that the service (Wikia) cannot store personal information from those under 13 years of age. Due to the fact Wikia does its best to comply with the law, and look after its users safety, Wikia must deny accounts to anyone whose age is under 13. That is why users under 13 are allowed to view pages (just typical internet information is given there just like with any site, such as their IP, OS, browser, current time, etc,) users under 13 are allowed to edit as long as they don't release personal information (which includes making an account, saying their DOB, address, phone number, etc.)
 * However, I'm not a lawyer so my understanding of it may not fully reflect US law (although I think it does.) Joey (talk) 03:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Redirect for Into the Night
Hi Danny: I noticed that the film Into the Night is not easy to find using the search engine, so to find out about Henson's cameo in the film, a user pretty much has to know that it was a John Landis movie, or else think to search under Jim Henson Cameos. Is there anyway to have a search for Into the Night redirect to the "Non-Henson Productions" heading of the Jim Henson Cameos page? Thanks.— Tom ( talk ) 18:49, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you know how to make a redirect? That's a good thing for you to learn how to do.


 * Here's how it's done: In your browser, go to /wiki/Into_the_Night and hit edit to create the page. Create the page with the text #REDIRECT Jim Henson Cameos . Hit save, and that creates the redirect -- then searches will go to the right place. -- Danny (talk ) 05:35, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Stats
Can we get some new stats when you get a chance? Thanks! -- Ken (talk ) 07:33, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Professor Hastings
Hi Danny, It's Kathy (Katzi428) I just noticed you left me a note regarding Professor Hastings.I had said that he was taken off of Sesame Street because he kept falling asleep during his lectures & kids would associate older people with falling asleep all the time. I'm pretty sure I read that in the "Sesame Street:Unpaved" book.But I could be wrong. If you want to leave it as it is,I won't be hurt. Sincerely, Kathy (User:Katzi428)

More USB's
I just ran across Sesame Street home video USBs. Where should we categorize them? Here we go again with another format! -- Ken (talk ) 06:06, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would actually classify that in Sesame Street Electronics and forget about it. It's not really a new format for videos -- including a DVD program on each USB drive is just a marketing tool for selling the drives.


 * It's like when there were free DVDs of The Muppets Take Manhattan on cereal boxes a few years ago. As storage technology gets better, 50 minutes worth of video isn't a big deal anymore -- it's something you can give away for free and hardly notice it. -- Danny (talk ) 06:39, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I knew that we had something "electronic" that wasn't video games, but I couldn't think of it.  Actually, they've been experimenting with USB drives for music a few times for large boxed sets.  They made a USB set for the Beatles boxed set that came out last year, and there was a USB set for the Warner Brothers Records 50th anniversary boxed set in 2008, and it had more songs than the corresponding CD set.  If anybody at the Workshop is reading this, I'd be glad to buy a USB set of the last 40 years of records, cassettes, and CD's! -- Ken  (talk ) 07:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah -- definitely if they do something like that, we count it as a release -- and it would be a very exciting one. :) -- Danny (talk ) 17:46, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sesame DVD covers
Hey, can I start plugging in the new covers to their pages, and take them off of the talk page, or do you want to leave them on the talk page, too? -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, go ahead and plug away! They can stay on the talk page or take 'em off, whichever you think is best. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:34, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd like to wait until at least Feb. 2, when the new Elmo one comes out, and we see what the new ones are going to look like. All the ones we have so far are actually Genius copies with Warner stickers.  I'm curious because every time the distributor changes, the box changes.  I've never been so anxious for an Elmo DVD to come out in my life! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:43, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Brief update. DVDempire.com shows Elmo's Potty Time and Elmo Loves You with Warner catalog numbers and a date of 1/5/10. So I guess they did start reissuing some titles early, before the Music one comes out on 2/2/10.  If it ever stops raining, I'm going to go out and see what I can find in stores! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:52, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sesame 3-CD set
Hi! Can you recreate Old School: Volume 1 (CD)? I want to try to put the ad over on Unfinished Sesame Street Albums. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure! I posted the pic and the text on Talk:Old School: Volume 1 (CD). -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:10, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Scott said it was an internal pitch, and I guess it never got beyond that.  That's really a shame, and now I'm wondering if Koch even has a deal at this point.  I'm going to have to start finding people to talk to about this.  Warner seems to have no problem taking over the video.  I wish they were doing both! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you never know... Warner just got a license to make Sesame video games, too. Maybe we'll hear about a record deal sometime... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:19, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Sesame Street seems to have had a troubled history of their audio and video companies going out of business for a variety of reasons. I still don't know why the in-house label was shut down in 1984, and then Golden got out of the music business, and then Sony decided to not have a kid's division anymore, and I still don't know what happened to Sight & Sound.  I really hope that Warner is going to be around a while, because they seem to want to distribute properties that they don't actually own.  I was shocked when they got Peanuts, too!  I thought Paramount would hold onto them forever!  Peanuts also has a history of little-known video companies handling their VHS titles in the early days.  For Warner to now have both of these properties is very cool! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:44, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

State of amazement
Wow! I'd actually unlinked a couple of states since, after four years, it seemed unlikely we'd find a connection for them. And then there's this Muppet Babies coloring book. Wonderful. Thank you so much for scanning them all. Of course Nate will be tickled to death when he sees it. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:07, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was happy to find the book on Ebay -- unfortunately, it's missing a few pages, and then some of them are colored in, so I've only got 39 out of 50. Still, there's lots of fun stuff on those -- Gonzo as Abraham Lincoln, Bunsen as Thomas Edison, Animal as King Kong (again!), Plymouth Rock, Grauman's Chinese Theater... Yup, Nate oughta be pretty happy. :) -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:13, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm filling in some redlinks right now, and the Mississippi page is a nice boost for Mark Twain. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:15, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just did Vermont. Simple but amusing. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:30, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Video table formats
What ho! I know you're extremely busy hither and thither, but when you get a chance, take a look at Talk:Play-Along Games & Songs. The issue was discussed in a general way in October but galleries weren't brought into it then (and given the amount of time, I'm not sure if it matters to you now or not, but I thought the gallery above the table on that page looked really messy and just made it harder to find the actual descriptions, though I added a short lead-in to help either way). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Jeopardy!
I noticed that the Jeopardy page is very small, but I would like to add these Muppet Mentions http://www.j-archive.com/search.php?search=muppet to it, but could I do it in a "Table" format? -- User:Rnazar


 * I'll answer this on the Talk:Jeopardy! page... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sesame CD's
Hi! Seeing as how we're working on the Genius/Warner switch, is there a way to contact either Koch or the Workshop to ask if they're even still making new Sesame CD's? I wrote Koch a letter last year, and they never wrote back, which isn't a good sign. And I know people have mentioned e-mailing the Workshop, but saying they never responded either. I guess I'll have to call New York, and try to talk to somebody in Consumer Products. I still think that 3-CD set was going to be made, but somebody cancelled it. Do we still have that ad somewhere? The page got deleted, but I'd like to put it in Unfinished Sesame Street Albums for documentation. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hi!!
Thanks for welcoming me to wikia ( even if its manditory )!!And by the way, are you Muppet Danny?? -- MuppetFreak82


 * Nope, that's User:MuppetDanny; you can find him there! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:40, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Current Events
Thanks for the covers. I had a question. Can we put Current Events somewhere on the left side? We've been getting a lot of new people lately, and I don't think they know what Current Events is, or where to find it. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:04, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we took it out of the sidebar because we realized that new people don't really need to know about it. There are probably about ten people who ever post there, and we all have it on our watchlist and check for it on My Home / Recent changes. You don't really care about the Current Events conversations until you're a pretty serious editor, and by that time, you've either seen it already or the regulars have directed you to it.


 * At least, that's been our working theory. Are you seeing people who ought to know about it who don't? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:49, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, it just seems to me that we've had some new people who have a lot of questions about format and policy, and they're asking questions in one place, but it winds up affecting other places. And if they never knew that we had a Current Events, they wouldn't know to ask it there.  At least that's how I saw it.  Eventually, the question was resolved.  So I guess if we keep an eye on talk pages, it's the same thing.  I'm just used to going to Current Events because I was reading the whole site before I even joined. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:00, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * If we see a new person asking a question that should be on Current Events, then I think that's the moment to gently direct them over to that page. That's how people really discover what C.E. is for, when they have a general wiki question. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:02, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

GrouchMan
Hello I'm Station7 and I'm a friend of GrouchMan. I saw that he made mistakes and that was absolutely not his purpose. GrouchMan is a nice guy and never hurt somebody, so could your unblock his user. He's really a nice guy. He made some mistakes and that happens to me a lot to, the same as he. So I hope you unblock him, he's a big fan of The Muppets.--Station7 23:12, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * We had good reasons for blocking him on this wiki. Sometimes it just doesn't work out for a contributor on a particular wiki. I'm glad that you guys are friends on the Harry Potter Wiki. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but he hurt nobody. There are worse people then him. He's a very good person and he's not a vandalism guy (not in any way).--Station7 23:39, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * He was blocked more than once, under more than one name, warned to communicate, given a second chance after a first block (which was temporary) and a third and so on, etc. (and over a lot more than redirects, that was just the last straw; see also User:Greymon101). I'm sure he's a nice guy, but as Danny said, some people don't work out. There's no hard feelings over it, and we wish you and him well. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:57, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

He helps Seth Cooper, he helps me. He's a great partner. He's my right-hand.--Station7 00:01, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's great to hear. But none of that really changes his case history in this context. Please don't be offended, but as administrators, it's a lot of work trying to maintain Muppet Wiki, and unblocking a user who had multiple chances and each time proved problematic, ignored warnings, uncommunicative, etc. (well-meaning, probably, but still a repeated problem) just doesn't seem prudent. He had more than three chances and made multiple promises and, well, it didn't work out. Maybe his enthusiasm got away with him. Maybe he's matured a bit in the intervening months, which is great, but again, it's not persuasive from our point of view. Again, no offense, I'm glad he helps you and Seth Cooper, but repeated messages from you guys aren't likely change the policies or way this specific Wiki functions. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:07, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Seth Cooper, admin in the Harry Potter Wiki. GrouchMan has been a great help in the HPW project (fixing redirects; contributing positively to the encyclopedia, etc.), and he told me that he was banned here at the Muppet Wiki after going "a little overboard on fixing the redirects", as he puts it. As he pointed out, he was doing that on good faith (and admits his mistake) and, as such, I would appreciate if you took in consideration lifting his ban not only for him, but for your wonderful wiki, too. Of course, I leave to your good judgement to decide what's best. Regards, <font style="color:#333333;"> Seth Cooper <font style="background:#333333;color:white;"> Talk page! 23:39, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * GrouchMan has only 2 accounts. He said that to me.--Station7 00:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this really isn't up for discussion. Andrew, we don't need to justify the decision, and I don't want to keep this conversation going on my talk page. As I said above, we had good reasons for blocking him here, and he's going to stay blocked. I'm very glad to hear that you guys are working together well on the Harry Potter Wiki; that sounds like a good place for him to be!


 * I'd like to ask for this conversation to end here. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

If you haven't seen it...
If you haven't seen it, nobody can mess with John Barrowman no more. Also you can add Noël Coward to your listings if composers count. -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 23:00, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:08, January 14, 2010 (UTC)