User:MuppetArchives/Quality article nominations

A quality article should exemplify Muppet Wiki's very best work. The award is given based on merit.

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Awarding Quality status

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 * An article with 0-1 supporting votes after two weeks is removed from the nomination slate.


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Kevin Clash
Nominated January 24th, closes February 7th
 * Nomination: Lots of information, well-sourced. A complete, varied and informative article, with great pictures. -- Danny (talk ) 11:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose: This isn't a strong opposition, and I'll probably withdrawal it soon because they are pretty easy fixes for anyone that wants to tackle the task. I did some polishing but there are a few minor things I'd like to see cleaned up and added before I give this my "quality" support. (1) the section titled "The Jim Henson Hour" needs some work and clean up. As it is now it rambles from JHH to jam in all his "Muppet Show family" characters and miscellaneous Muppet credits. It doesn't flow real well and the article could use a little better coverage on his work on Muppets Tonight, Muppet Treasure Island, Dog City and the like. (2) A little more on Clash and Elmo would be nice! Maybe even a section heading on Elmo with some coverage on Kevin and the little red guy. There is little coverage of his relationship and work as Elmo. How did Kevin end up with the character? How did he develop the character? How did Elmo grow/evolve? The trivia section says "Although Richard Hunt and Brian Muehl both performed Elmo in his earliest appearances on Sesame Street, the character did not take off until Clash started performing him in 1985.", I think this could use some explaining and information to back it up in the body of the article. How did Clash make Elmo the superstar character he is today? (3) Kevin is categorized as a director, but what's he directed? There's no mention of directing in the article. (4) Dinosaurs and Baby Sinclair deserve a little bit more than one awkwardly phrased sentence. -- Brad D.  (talk ) 21:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've had my problems with this article myself for some time, and just did a bit of clean-up myself. But while it does have a lot of information, it's still all over the place. I just turned the production credits into a list rather than a dull paragraph (and the directing credits, which are there, but needed to be hunted up amongst the "What Links Here," can be added). And I agree, some actual quotes or other insights on puppeteering, beyond listing characters, is needed. And there's still some general sloppy writing here and there, and the trivia items, which range from tendonitis and Clash potentially harming his voice to the birth of his daughter, seem just plain odd as they are now, and need to be integrated into the biographical section. There's enough good things about it and raw material that it *couled* become a quality article before the end of the nomination period, but it will take a community effort. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 21:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I didn't realize that there were so many problems with the page, but I agree with the comments above. Should we make it an "Attention" page? -- Danny (talk ) 00:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Regarding the comment about how Kevin Clash made Elmo into the superstar that he is today... I think his autobiography explains it, though it's been awhile since I last read it. I know that his autobiography mentions that one thing that Elmo started doing when Kevin Clash took was was laugh at the end of sentences. --Minor muppetz 01:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Bein' Green
Nominated January 25th, closes February 8th


 * Nominate: This is one of Kermit the Frog's best-known songs, and the page is very detailed, with a listing of nearly every known performance by every artist, as well as all known availablity on video, in albums, and publictions featuring the lyrics and sheet music. --Minor muppetz 22:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: While I think this page is certainly extensive, I feel like the text could be expanded and worked on more to really identify it as a quality piece of work. I think it's about 70% there, but this song has been so influential on the world, I think there's some quality missing. — Scott ( talk ) 05:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I agree. The lists are amazing and comprehensive; that part is absolutely quality work. I think we need to expand on the text to match that level of detail. -- Danny (talk ) 11:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Gonzo
Nominated January 25th, closes February 8th


 * Nominate: I think this is one of the most detailed pages for any of the main Muppet characters. It has plenty of pictures, and plenty of information about Gonzo, the productions he has appeared in, what species he is, his love life, his early life, and a list of Gonzo merchandise. As far as pages for the four main characters (Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie, and Gonzo) go, this one is perhaps the most informative. --Minor muppetz 03:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: There's a lot there -- but I think, like Kevin Clash, it needs a little more work. There's some text clean-up that needs to be done, and a couple sections that should be fleshed out more. -- Danny (talk ) 00:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

MuppetFest Memories
Nominated January 26th, closes February 9th
 * Nominate: Not a typical Muppet Wiki article, but it's detailed information that you can't find anywhere else (unless you happen to have a copy of the zine, and most people don't). -- Danny (talk ) 00:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Support: It's a great read, for the casual reader, or the more serious Muppet fan, and a record of arguably the most significant unique public event in the history of MuppetFandom. And for the Wiki obsessed of us, it's also a wonderful mine of quotes, facts, and other things to source or enhance pages. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 00:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Support: Thorough and informative. — Scott ( talk ) 19:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I think these are two great articles. I love these articles. They give so much detailed information on MuppetFest that can't be found elsewhere. They are great articles! But they aren't the greatest Wiki articles. If they were an exact reprint of the MuppetZine articles I would be weary of quality status because outside of a brief introduction the "article" would just be a display of a non-wiki piece of work that already existed. But as the articles aren't sheltered and unchanged reprints (they are just using the MuppetZine article, with permission, as a foundation). They have the potential to change and evolve (like any wiki article) - one being on day 1 of MuppetFest, and one on day 2 of MuppetFest. But they presented as a reprint of a MuppetZine article it makes it off-putting to "mess" with the document – and eventually (over time) make them nothing like the original MuppetZine text (except maybe to wikifiy a link or fix a typo or something). And if we had constructed a wiki article on "Day one of Muppetfest" (without the MuppetZine text as a basis) it would not be written or formatted the way "MuppetFest Memories: Day One" is. The articles constantly address Muppeteers on a first-name-only basis, they bold the first name/phrase of paragraphs, they address the reader/editor, and there are a few minor non-encyclopedically-phrased proses... If these are simply unchanged reprints of existing text, that's fine (not really a quality article of Muppet Wiki, it's more a quality article of Danny Horn). But if these are open and communal articles on the two days of MuppetFest (with Danny's pre-wiki writing used as a major foundation), then I think this needs a little bit of polishing nd change to be more inline with the form of other Wiki artiles and feel less "external" and ill-formatted in the surroundings. This is just my opinion, its not an objection, just a comment. -- <font color="Blue">Brad D. (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Western Publishing
Nominated January 29th, closes February 12th
 * Nominate: A detailed history of the Little Golden Books -- actually, this might be the most complete LGB history on the web. Lots of details, lots of links. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: I don't see where else this could expand. --  Zanimum 19:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Expertly researched. — Scott ( talk ) 19:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice! -- <font color="Blue">Brad D. (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Super Grover
Nominated January 31st, closes February 14th
 * Nominate: While there stilll may be some sketches out there left to find, a quality article does not mean it's "done." I've spent a lot of time building up the text part of this article, and I feel that I've done a good amount of research and have thoroughly covered several aspects of Super Grover. — Scott ( talk ) 05:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Yeah, bits and bobs could still be added (The Exciting Adventures of Super Grover gave his origin story and an alternate intro), but as is, it's well written, profusely illustrated, and carefully sourced, and a nice balance between the text portions and the sketch table. I'm especially impressed by both the fact that all but one of the verifiable sketches have images, and the merchandise paragraph is brilliant. Now I want a scented Grover pen. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Wow. Yeah, that's fantastic. I think splitting the text into headings has made the flow of the article very clear. Super Grover is a popular and memorable character, and I think we now have an article that does him justice. It's also a great example of how contributors can follow their individual passions (in this case Scott's love for superheroes) to build the wiki in surprising and beautiful ways. -- <font color="Blue">Danny  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 11:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Great article! (some more EKA would be nice, but whatcha gonna do?) -- <font color="Blue">Brad D. (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: It's a great article, and there's only one picture missing in the guide. --Gribbaziggy 21:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I Want a Monster to Be My Friend
Nominated February 6th, closes February 20th
 * Nomination: Interesting story, well researched, good pictures and links. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:58, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: — Scott ( talk ) 20:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Sesame Street Discography
Nominated February 6th, closes February 20th
 * Nomination: Yeah, it's just a list page, but it's comprehensive and complete. There are a bunch of sites on the web now that have the same incorrect/incomplete discography; we're the only site that has the correct version. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: Yeah, I can support a list if it's been as well-researched as this one. — Scott ( talk ) 20:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Albert Einstein
Nominated February 6th, closes February 20th
 * Nomination: Research, obscurata, outside link, etc. — Scott ( talk ) 20:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support: One of the best, most in-depth of the pure "reference" pages, and while it has fewer images than some, it benefits greatly from strong writing, explaining exactly why Albert matters in the Muppet world. And the images it does have are perfect. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC) 20:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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