User talk:Toughpigs

The Hoobs Episode List
I've just completed the Series 1 list on The Hoobs page, Would it be better to create a page for each season as the list will be very long when I complete it. -- Natonstan


 * No, a long list is fine! Just keep going. Henrik put a little code around the episode list, so it'll only appear when people want to read it. -- Danny (talk ) 16:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
Danny exactly how do you delete stuff on the Wiki? -- T.J. (talk ) 20:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Only admins can delete things. -- Danny (talk ) 21:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * OK thanks!! Oh, by the way what do you think of the videos that I've uploaded? -- T.J. (talk ) 15:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Danny!
Just thought I would stop by and tell you thank you for working on those Category tool buttons. I saw where you wrote to Wendy after Ken had told me to ask her if she could help. But thanks again. Talk to you later. -- Kyle (talk ) 11:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

pagetitle
Heya. Do you know why the pagetitle on the main page is only saying Muppet Wiki? I still haven't figured out how that syntax works. —Scott ( talk ) 01:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ack -- it just changed because of the 1.14 upgrade. There's now two different MW messages -- Pagetitle and Pagetitle-view-mainpage. The good news is that now that they're split up, we don't have to worry about that complicated syntax -- we can put the main page name in one message and the regular pagetitle in the other message. The bad news is that we have to remember that completely unmemorable MW message. Also -- we may have to go around and fix pagetitles on other wikis... Growf. Upgrades. -- Danny (talk ) 03:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, nice. Well, good to know. —Scott ( talk ) 03:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm glad you caught it! Emil mentioned to me that there would be a different MW message, but I wasn't thinking about the fact that we would have to change it here. -- Danny (talk ) 03:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

2 questions
Hey Danny,there's 2 questions I'd like to ask you,if you have the answers for them.

1.I'm having a bit of trouble with uploading images.Although I DO use the correct file ending name(mainly jpg),but whenever I try uploading them on the "upload new image" bar,it keeps saying the image is invalid. Do you suppose I'm doing something wrong at all?

2.Would you happen to know if this Hot Pink anything muppet,whom looks like this http://i42.tinypic.com/mkheoi.jpg,that was the MTV host for How Now Brown and the Moo Wave's "Wet Paint",(which was only shown in the full version of the video that can be viewed here http://www.sesamestreet.org/video_player?p_p_lifecycle=0&p_p_id=videoPlayer_WAR_sesameportlets4369&p_p_uid=0c2298fc-154a-11dd-8ea8-a3d2ac25b65b ,had a name or not,and also if there was a studio name during the MTV intro? I'm asking because I don't know if Sesamestreet.org cut off some of the MTV intro,or if this was how the full version was brodcasted on tv.

Category tool thingy
Hey Danny -- do we not have the little category tool thing on Muppet? I hadn't noticed it missing before but I'm totally addicted to it thanks to other wikis. The dangers of cool little toys. -- Wendy (talk ) 23:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * We don't yet... This is probably totally stupid, but I want to move the button on the page down. It's too close to the words in the category box, and kind of overlaps with them. So I've been meaning to bug the designer and see if we can move it down a little. And I haven't turned on the category thing because of that. Not a great reason, really... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Image Shuffle
What ho! Would you mind holding off on the image shuffling on character pages? I imagine it's so they'll look better with ads. Thing is, remember the IE spacing issue I've mentioned at various times? It's never been resolved (and I think at last check, seemed like it was something Wikia couldn't fix, but an inherent IE issue). So anytime an image is longer than the text on the side of it, it pushes things down, which is why images were grouped at the top. The changes now vary from minor spacing to really unsightly gaps. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought that was fixed a long time ago. Let me check with Christian... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope. Never fixed. What was fixed was an issue with edit tags being messed up when images were at the top, but Scott kind of merged the two on some of the problem pages, though they weren't at all related from a technical standpoint. I screengrabbed a few from the latest edits, with Fozzie as one of the more bothersome examples. This is at a high resolution (1440 by 900) on a flatscreen, but the issue is the same in other resolutions and on other monitors which use IE. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, cool. I'm working with Christian on this right now... We'll figure out something. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I hadn't really looked at the Jim Henson page in awhile, and images have been added since, so right now, even with that readjustment, it doesn't look so hot. I looked at it logged out, and it's worse in at least one spot, since there are three ads on the page (two in the body) and the banner on top, which combined affect the length and general layout to create an even bigger gap. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, here's the deal. There's some new ad placements that we're working on, and they're causing problems on pages that have a bunch of images all down the right side -- for Firefox and Safari, the ads get pushed down and appear overlapping with content. So right now, the situation is that on certain pages, it's messed up either way -- if we have the long row of images from the top, then Firefox/Safari sees the ad overlap; if the images are spread out down the page, then IE sees weird spacing.

Christian just spent the last hour investigating the first problem, and came up empty for now. So now he's investigating the IE problem. He says he's going to keep working on it tonight, and he seems pretty confident that we can figure out something one way or the other.

So -- we won't move any more images around tonight, and we'll see what Christian can come up with. Whatever it turns out to be, I can fix everything tomorrow -- either putting it back the way it was, or moving more around, or whatever. But it'll have to wait tonight until we see what Christian says.

Andrew -- thanks for bringing this up! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I have an answer! Right now, it looks like we can't fix either problem -- they're both just inherent parts of the stupid way that "float" works in css. Christian spent a lot of the last two days cursing at things. But we can make things look better in Firefox -- we'll add a 1px margin to the top of the ad, so that it doesn't overlap with the text. That won't be perfect, but it'll be fine for now.


 * So I'll move the pics back that I moved -- we can still do the images all bunched at the top if we want, and let the ads fall where they may.


 * Also -- the IE float problem has actually been fixed in IE8. So feel free to upgrade! Unfortunately, right now only 2 percent of our IE users have IE8....... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I thought I *had* IE8, but right before Easter I had yet another virus attack (Kaspersky couldn't prevent it), so in the process, when the tech people set things back a good deal (ande I've had to relocate or reinstall most of my programs once again, which has left me without a way to read Japanese symbols, so I'm glad we cut down on those on the Wiki except when absolutely necessesary for co-productions or such), I may well have downgraded. I'll look into that myself, but yeah, it's not ideal if it's something most users aren't doing. Also, this came up in the old discussions, but there are also basic practical solutions (at least for floating/spacing, not sure how it would dovetail with the Firefox issue): the problem only occurs when the picture is longer than the text next to it, so it pushes down what follows. So either text expansion (or in some cases, like on Fozzie Bear or other character pages, some subheadings could actually be combined). Also possibly in some cases, just a judicial picture trim, since there's a lot of repetition in some cases from other pages, and with the ads in general, this has thrown off some pages (not sure about Jim Henson, which is image heavy but many or unique; right now they seem kind of randomly placed in many spots, though, especially the multiple ; I may play around with that at some point). Thanks to you and Christian for going back to the problem, and it's good to have a clearer idea what causes it. At some point, as an adjunct to the Policies/Guidelines page, I'm thinking of starting a tech page (or expand the FAQ) to address more long-term or browser-caused issues of this kind, so other users know why and where to look (as well as things like image cache delays which crop up, anything like that, maybe with some primer stuff on things like uploading images/screengrabbing and so on). Anyway, thanks again! -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I've upgraded to IE8, and it doesn't solve the problem (as seen here, on The Jimmy Dean Show). For that particular page, there's frankly too many images anyway (Warrick added one that really puts it over the top though there was already a slight space issue, and there's also the table below). I'll probably move one below to the sources and possibly take out the top image from Of Muppets and Men (which is nice, but it has a home on several pages and now we have more actual screengrabs and promo images to use). We can play around with it anyway. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * fwiw, the "text length" relative to the image height is going to depend on screen res, as that determines the horizontal space for text next to the set width image. So I don't think "making the text longer" is an easily defined thing; you can make it work on your screen but someone with a bigger screen will still see the problem.  Just a comment.  Image placement and ads are always a headache it seems.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * This particular problem, however, remains on all screen res and monitor sizes, Wendy (and in general, lengthening does help or even alleviate the issue in some cases, but you're right, in general moving images around or taking some out on overcrowded pages works better). I've compared with several in different locations over the past few years this has existed, before we had to factor in ads as well. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Scanning Question
I'm not savy enough to figure this out on my own, so I'll ask. Should I be doing something different on my scans? I noticed you updated a few of mine today, and I'm wondering if there is something else I should be doing. -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 21:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm just upping the contrast and saturation. The scans look a little washed-out, so I'm putting them in my little graphics program and making the colors brighter. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well aren't you just fancy. I might have to get me one of them there things too.  -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate  (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 21:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I use Graphic Converter, it's free... That's for Mac, but I'm sure you can find something similar for PC if you need it. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Lost in the Cave
Thanks for catching that. After I got done with the article, I realized I had screwed it up, and when I went back to start changing it, you already had everything all moved and fixed. HUZZAH! You are now Gobo to my Red. -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 20:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yay! Now all we need is a Boober. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Scott or Andrew. ;) -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 20:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

ad
Gayest ad ever. —Scott ( talk ) 03:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Can't be the gayest ad ever, it doesn't have a guy with his shirt off. :) -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

GrouchMan Talk Page
Danny why was the GrouchMan talk page protected? -- <font color="Green">T.J. (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 13:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You've been editing and re-editing that page to apologize for past behavior. You don't need to do that anymore. You've learned how to edit -- that's great, we appreciate it. You're fine. Don't worry about what happened before; just move on and keep contributing to the wiki. :) -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But when my period of blockage is up, will I be able to contribute as GrouchMan again? -- <font color="Green">T.J. (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 13:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't realize that you wanted to switch back. Is it important to you? Your contribution history as Greymon101 is a lot stronger than the history for GrouchMan... so it's a shame to split that up again. But if you really want to switch back to that name, it's easy to do. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Danny, obviously, I realize the mistakes I made before as GrouchMan & I just want this Wiki to see that GrouchMan has learned a big lesson about editing. Thanks!! Scott's the one who blocked me though. I think we'll have to talk to him about it! Thanks again!! -- <font color="Green">T.J. (<font color="Green" size="1">talk )

Front Page (again
Again, there are too many pictures than news. It doesn't balance. What pictures should I take out? Webkinz Mania "It's Me!" blahblahblah! Edit Like Mania 18:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Muppet Easter egg kits
Hey Danny, question for you. You moved the Sun Hill Egg Art to a general page for Easter Egg Kits. Are all Easter Egg Kits going on that page? I ask because I've got a Hallmark kit that I'm going to upload and create a page for on my next big wiki work day, but now I'm wondering if it would go on its own page or not? -- ''<font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 17:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I just put it there cause it was the only one we had, and I wasn't sure if we'd have others. I'm glad that you've got another one! You can move it to Muppet Easter egg kits (Sun Hill) and then create Muppet Easter egg kits (Hallmark)... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Out to Lunch Script
Hiya. I was just wondering Danny, if it was possible for you to do this. I looked through the pages that you have uploaded on the original script for the tv special Out to Lunch. Would it be possible to upload the entire script from the show rather than just the 59 pages that are already up? I'm just curious because I would like to see what else went on in this show by its detail. You can just email me the entire script if you want as well: pns1@comcast.net. I just hope it's not too time consuming for you, and if so, I understand. Thank you so much. Znsnyder 15, April 2009, 10:55am


 * Yeah, sorry -- that would be a pain to do. It's another 75 pages, and I've already scanned everything that's of interest for the wiki. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

That's cool. I just didn't know how bad it might be, but I know that you are busy with other things in life and I just thought I'd ask. I only hope that somehow this special turns out so that us Muppet fans will be able to see it for the first time since '74. Are those old clips still on youtube? -Znsnyder 15, April 2009, 13:34pm


 * I actually don't think it's a great loss. From what I can tell from the script, it looks like it was a pretty bad show. The show tries to mix Sesame Street, The Electric Company and prime-time network specials, and the combination doesn't really work very well. The Carol Burnett material in particular is written in a shockingly lazy way, like the writers were barely even trying. The Grover Knover sketch looks great, and I suspect it was written by the actual Sesame writers, but besides that, it doesn't seem like much of a tragedy if we never see it. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I guess when you put it that way, it's not the end of trhe world. Just thought I'd bring up the subject though. Thanks. -Znsnyder 16, April 2009, 10:07am

Muppets in Space
Heya. You reviewed this script for TP back in the day. But it must have been in the batch of old stuff that you removed a while ago. Do you have it backed up anywhere? —Scott ( talk ) 02:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think I actually did review it. I think I might have just talked about doing it and then never got around to it. I still have the scripts, though; a bunch of drafts. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I did a search on the site and found this. Maybe you started it and never got around to finishing it? —Scott ( talk ) 04:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yup, that would be it. I don't think I ever posted a link to that -- I was going to finish it first. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * We'd love to get your full review of it on ToughPigs anytime, Danny! Or if you're not up for it, you can always send it to us to review. — <font colr="Blue">Joe  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Scott and I were just talking about it on Skype this morning. I just moved on Thursday, so I need to unpack enough to find them... but then we'll definitely do something with them. It's actually more than one script -- I think it's maybe five different drafts. Anyway, I'll find them soon. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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