User:MuppetVJ/Talk Archive 02

Archive of Guillermo's talk page.

Whistle a Happy Tune
Hey, Guilelrmo! When you get a chance, take a look at Talk:I Whistle a Happy Tune. I'd like to remove that, since it seems fairly clear they're the same sketch, but since you've seen the episodes concerned and Peter and I haven't, I'd appreciate your input. Thanks! -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 17:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Moderation
Hey, G -- I'm really glad that you became a moderator. You've always been welcoming new people, and now it's cool to see you doing everything. It's great to have another person looking out for the wiki who's completely trustworthy and totally on top of things. It makes me happy. -- Danny (talk ) 12:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

The Rhymies
Hey G, regarding your note on Dean's talk page about Caroly Wilcox on The Rhymies, do you have reason to believe that this is incorrect? If so, go ahead and let him know the information is being removed citing lack of source. — Scott (talk ) 18:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Main Page picture
Hey babe: That's a fantastic picture that you posted on Main Page picture nominations, but I don't think it'll work for the main page. Pictures for the main page need to be "portrait" -- taller than they are wide. That picture is much wider than it is tall, so when it's shrunk down to 250px, it's not going to look very good. Is there some other way we could use that picture? -- Danny (talk ) 02:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm ... maybe on the Ernie and Bert page? How's that?--MuppetVJ 16:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)]
 * Yeah, that's perfect! -- Danny (talk ) 12:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I Dream of Genie
Hey, G! Since you've seen the episode and I haven't, I assume that Cheech Marin as the Genie was in costume? The AP image certainly doesn't make it obvious, and the way it was posed (also with Ruth Buzzi, who I cut out for space) suggests this was just a PR pose and not from the episode itself. However, his appearance in A New Way to Walk, with bell bottoms and an afro, seems as if it *might* have been used for the genie character. Can you recall which was which? -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 05:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right - the Genie's main outfit is seen in the AP image, and there's a part in the episode where the Genie sings an Elvis-style song in Elvis-style getup, which I'm guessing you're also referring to - as such, the brief part for the new Way to Walk would have been shot on the same day. --MuppetVJ 06:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

David Johansen
Hey G, do you have any input for Talk:David Johansen? — Scott (talk ) 20:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Question answered. --MuppetVJ 06:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Judgement
Hi, Guillermo! Actually, that's probably worth talking about. In the case of one anon, who changed "lg" to "blg," they may have misread and thought they were correcting a typo. In the case of the other, though, simply adding "big bag" to the bottom of an article, which already explains the Big Bag connection at the top, implies illiteracy, idiocy, or something else, so it's basically minor vandalism. I don't usually block those people myself unless they persist, but it's worth being aware of. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 23:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the "big bag" person fits the pattern of a user who's created pages with no text but "big bird" and so forth. Apparently new Wikia stuff will make it easier to track when multiple IPs are being used by the same machine, or something. Again, it's not necessarily what I would have done, but Scott's reaction, at least in that case, was more than being "judgemental." -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I dunno, my reaction was similar to Guillermo's. I thought both were incredibly minor, and not worth blocking for now. I support G's unblocking. I think being trigger-happy has generally saved us from a lot of headaches, but every once in a while, we fire when we don't quite need to. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:38, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I agree too, sort of. I'm tired, I admit, but it struck me as the sort of thing that would be worth discussing, and not just in parantheticals, so we don't wind up contradicting each other's decisions all over the place. I dunno if Scott's around right now, since it was his doing anyway (the last person I blocked was a registered user who was creating pages which were not only non-Muppet, but on examination turned out to be fake, so I'd say that's more than justified). And of course, I've unblocked before myself. But it's been awhile since we as admins discussed Muppet Wiki policy on this (in fact, by the policy, in this case, they should at least have been given username notices, and then wait and see, since it wasn't outright vandalism so much as likely cluelessness), so I wanted to bring it up somewhere. And this wasn't something I felt comfortable mentioning on current events. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

News Flash Logo
Hey, the "Little Miss Muffet" sketch DOES appear to be from 1971, but I am pretty sure it's not the first "News Flash" sketch to be produced. I read online that the "Rapunzel" sketch was the first, and when I saw it on YouTube, it had the cloud/lightning version of the title card (the older incarnation with the pink cloud outling). It looks like that logo was there since that skit first aired! So, the alternate "News Bulletin!" logo was probably not the first version of the logo used. You get my drift? :) --Wile e2005 23:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah - I think the bulletin card was the first card, since it has that Electric Company-style font. I've seen the Miss Muffet news flash several times growing up, but never with that title card.  I'm guessing when they put that episode (#2234) together, they just used whatever master materials (whether an episode master or a "Show:Wild" master) they had handy at the time.  Imagine how hard it must be to find all those skits in that warehouse.--MuppetVJ 00:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting... But I noticed something on that skit. Jerry Nelson as the announcer sounds as he always does, but on the Rapunzel skit, Jerry (the announcer) sounds quite different during the logo!! --Wile e2005 01:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Episode 131
I think the following sketches were only used in the Noggin version of Unpaved #131:


 * Cartoon: An N-terview with an N
 * Cartoon: Q--that funny looking thing
 * Celebrity: Arte Johnson talks about Q & U
 * Cartoon: A dog learns about U
 * Cartoon: Today's Secret Drawing: the letter M
 * Cartoon: A gorilla who knows G words applies for a job
 * Cartoon: K is for kiss.

--71.38.20.128, 15:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Show me some proof and I'll take your word for it. --MuppetVJ 15:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

There's a message from Mikealan in 2003 at MuppetCentral Forum that says "Well, I think the 2nd season premiere is sponsored just only J & 2. I can't beleive that it's sponsored by more than 5 letters!" That's how I know about it. It can still be found at MuppetCentral Forum by searcing Sesame Street Unpaved Episodes on Page 2. --71.38.20.128, 15:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey G!
Hey G-man, good to see ya again. I'm SO glad I found this place!! Finally an unbiased way to productively interact with the most hardcore of Muppet fans without all the bickering and just blatently ridiculous happenings that went down all those years ago back at MC. Its exactly when people like us need, ay? Thanks for the advice; I look forward to future contributions! --Cantus Rock 15:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

media file
Hey G, are you using [[Media:Media-Near and Far.ogg]] anywhere on the wiki? It's showing up in unused files right now. — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I uploaded it twice because I don't know how to add the "Media" tag to it. It just shows up as an image for some reason.


 * BTW, check your inbox ... ;)


 * --MuppetVJ 19:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and delete that one.
 * Going now to inbox. — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hey babe: Yay, I'm glad you caught the main page vandalism again. I have a little tip about it -- when we revert vandalism, we shouldn't write anything in the edit summary. If the vandal knows that he's annoying us, then that gives him a reason to keep doing it.

A while ago, there was a vandal who was checking Recent Changes and saw someone's irritated edit summary, and then he actually responded in the edit summary the next time he vandalised. We stopped "talking" to him in the edit summaries, and he went away. So that seems like the best strategy. Just so you know. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 15:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * If that's the case, maybe you should change the rule that says:
 * Be sure to add the word "revert" and a brief explanation for the revert to the edit summary. You can abbreviate "revert" as "rv".
 * --MuppetVJ 15:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, when you revert, you just have to click the rollback link and it fills in the revert comment automatically. -- <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * D'oh! I didn't realize that that was there. I haven't really looked at the Vandalism policy since we first began the site. The way we deal with it has completely changed. Thanks, G! I'll fix it up better. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I just rewrote the Vandalism policy. Let me know if there's anything I missed... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hawaii
Yay, I'm happy that you're doing the Hawaii episodes. The pictures of the mountains are really cool. I like the picture with Big Bird and Snuffy standing in front of the mountain, and then the second picture shows the line revealing the Snuffy mountain. That's awesome. I also like the gorilla mountain picture. Yay! Whenever you finish the set of episodes, I'll put those up as Today on Muppet Wiki -- I think people will really dig those. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:KevinClashSS.jpg
That's awesome! -- <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Grandpa Grouch
Hey, G! I checked the history of Grandpa Grouch, and see that it's your contribution. See the talk page, if you can help flesh it out. The rest of us don't have a clue. <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Sesame episodes
Yay, it's cool to see Episode 1090 up! I have some more episodes to add... We'll get this all done eventually. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 13:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Attention
Hey babe: I saw that you added some Attention tags yesterday on The Wasteroon Song, Episode 1736 and Water Pollution. When you add an attention tag, you should also post something on the talk page that says what kind of attention you think it needs, and how the page should be improved. My guess is that for the two songs, you want to know what episode they're from, and stuff like that. If that's the case, then I think it would be better to post a talk page tag on those pages, and ask the question there -- or just ask Michael directly, since he posted those pages.

The Attention category is still new, so we're still kind of figuring out how it works. I just went through and weeded out all the pages that had been marked for attention without giving an explanation -- Scott, Andrew and I had done it too. So I'm still figuring it out, and I wanted to give you a heads up. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)