User:Pino/Talk Archive 01

Hi, Paul!
I saw your question over on Andrew's talk page, and I wanted to tell you that the CD you saw is an Australian version of the 1995 US Sesame Christmas CD, and we already have a picture of it on the wiki. Let me know if you have any other questions. I found numbers for about 19 Australian versions of the US Sony Wonder CD's, and I'd love to find pictures of those! -- Ken (talk ) 03:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I love the Israeli record you found! Do you actually have it, or do you just have a picture? The reason I'm asking is because I think that's the back cover, with all the small print and logos at the bottom. (Nice picture of Season 1 Ernie and Bert, though!) Did you scan the cover, or take a picture of it? -- Ken (talk ) 04:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ehm no I won it on ebay yesterday.. It should arrive in a few weeks.. I shall make better pictures from the front and the back sleeve for the wiki! (Pino 19:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC))
 * Hey, it looks great! I have some questions.  Did the person on eBay translate the song titles, or did you do that?  Do you know Hebrew?  Also, some of the song titles sound like they're based on American songs.  Can you tell if any of the songs are translated from English?  Does it give the songwriters' names? -- Ken  (talk ) 04:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry he tranlated it because I cant read hebrew. But your right it sounds like usa songs. When I find the time i shalle listen to the whole record and correct if its neccecairy ok? The man also looks further for me because he knew about atleast 3 kind of records from Israel ;) (22:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC))

Hello Paul
Hello there. I'm Kyle. I stop by and works on here too. I've been looking at your list of SS list of internastional records and you have lots. I've always visited your site and love Sesamstraat. And i love all your work you've done on the wiki too. I've been watching lots of clips on youtube lately. Pretty awsome stuff they have. So far Tommie is one of my favorites on the show. But i came here to ask do you transfur any of your records to mp3s or anything like that? If not that's fine. I've been trying to find other SS records and really would love to have the audio from them. Here's my email if you want to reach me or just talk about SS stuff then here you go. -- Kyle (talk ) 08:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC) basketpusherkyle@yahoo.com

Basil Hears a Noise?
Hey, Paul! What's your source for all the Basil Hears a Noise credits you've been adding? Some simple checking shows that Bob Stutt didn't take over as Basil until six years after that special. Same with Chaos and Karen Valleau. Did you see this somewhere or was this just your guess? -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 20:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * http://us.vdc.imdb.com/title/tt1081732/ here is the link I found. When I googles for Basil hears a noise this titel came up also :In the Key of Basil(Pino 20:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC))
 * First, that's not an entry for the special (this is). Secondly, it lists random cast members who may or may not have been in that episode; above the list, it says "These people are regular cast members. Were they in this episode?" Third, the "voice" attribute is another IMDb quirk, incorrectly applied here to the on-camera actor who played Ray as well. Finally, IMDb is not a reliable source, per policy, unless it tallies with actual copies of the special or other sources. Just so you know for the future. Thanks! -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 21:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok.. wont trust that site again then ;) Im looking at Ebay international by records.. There are some nice ones worth looking for?.. Austalian etc. (Pino 21:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

Hi, Paul!
A while back, you said you were hoping to get the Enciclopedia Abrete Sesamo. Did you ever get it? -- Ken (talk ) 02:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I got it.. When i was DIY my collection room... It stands now nicly on a shelf ;) I am also loosly translating the german cd's when I have time.. Maybe you can take a look at it if you know some songs that are translated wrong?
 * I mean I dont know all original songs, but maybe with my translation and the songwriter you know the original title. (Pino 13:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC))

Record questions
Hi, Paul! I don't want to bug you with a lot of questions, but I'm running into some things I don't understand on the WSP stuff. I didn't want to write them all out here in case you didn't have time right now, but let me know and I'll ask you a little bit at a time. Thanks! -- Ken (talk ) 00:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me know what you want to know. I try to answer them all ;) (Pino 21:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC))
 * Okay, here's one. Do you have the Abrete Sesamo album and singles?  I had some song and catalog number questions.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have the two records and the two singles with espinete and harry. What do you like to know?(Pino 18:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC))
 * Would you be able to scan the labels for the Abrete Sesamo (album) LP and singles? I wanted to check the songwriting credits.  Also the back covers of the LP and singles.  And are there 2 songs or 3 on the 45 with Ernie and Bert on the cover?  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Een Uur Niet Zeuren
Hi, Paul! Do you have this album? I've been trying to find the catalog number, but I can't find it. Let me know if you have it. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope sorry. Every album I have I immediately put the catalogue numbers on this site as soon I have them ;) I do have a lot but this cassette I don't have :( (Pino 17:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC))

Sesamstrasse Discography
Hi Paul! It looks like I might have some free time to Photoshop together something for Sesamstrasse Discography next week. In the meantime, I've been looking at some of those album pages and 90% of the songs are listed in German only. Can you go through them and provide the English translations in parentheses after each? —Scott ( talk ) 16:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I try though my german is not that good.. Afterwards maybe you can look if they can be linked with the original songs?(Pino 21:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC))

Pictures
Hi, Paul! Danny's not on the Wiki at the moment. I'm glad you found info on the new Sesamstraat characters, and I'm cleaning up those pages right now. However, I'm a little confused by the pictures. You indicated you "worked" on them. The greenish forest background or whatever looks a little odd, frankly. Do you have the originals? In general, we try to include the original pictures and limit alterations to resizing, lightening, removal of logos, etc. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes its one picture with a dutch comedian.. but not so big.. Thanks for the cleaning up ;) I thought to make a kind of typical Sesamstraat background behind it.(Pino 21:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC))
 * Thanks for clarifying. Can you upload a version without the background? Or better yet, keep an eye out for any clips or better images, since whether we're using screengrabs or publicity photos, we try not to alter things too much (they may take awhile to surface, of course, so these are useful in the meantime). In a case like this, a blank white background would work better, and maybe slightly smaller (since the pixillation shows). If you need help, ask Scott (he's often busy, but it works best if he has specific images to work on, as opposed to a general request to create a collage from scratch, as with the record stuff). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Be right on top of this ;) (Pino 21:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC))
 * Thanks! And thanks again for adding this in the first place (I wasn't even aware they were adding new characters). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi!
Hey, Paul, I've missed you! I've been looking at the Sesamstraat records, and I wish I knew how to speak Dutch! I might have some translation questions for you later on, if I can remember which record I was looking at! Anyway, it's nice to see you again, and I'm glad you're adding even more new albums! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Dutch tapes
Hi, Paul! I haven't seen you in a while. I love all the new stuff you're adding. Can you look at the Sesamstraat Kijk-, Lees- & Luister-Club page, and see if there's anything else you can translate? I've tried to translate parts of it myself, but it didn't come out right. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We had a lot of nice sunny days lately so it was to hot on the addic to go behind the computer lol.. As far of the translations.. I have a few books myself but also I dont know all of the original stories. So Ive translated in italic the once i am not sure about. The names could be different in English.. but I hope it helped te find out if there are original stories by those tekst. A lot of the other stories could be mixed up because of the letters from words. for instance tree would e found under B in Dutch (Boom) and also a lot of stories are from the Dutch writing hand and read by Lex. I also find out that the original titel for Grover leert tellen (Tape 16 I believe is called originaly : Going Up..
 * Pino 20:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a lot of the stories are hard to figure out, especially when they change Big Bird to Pino, but this will give other people something to work with. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Sony CD's
Hey, Paul, what's your source on the Japanese Sesame CD's of US albums all being from 1999? I've been trying to find out more about them, but I can't find anything. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have a person living in Japan who search and sometimes translates covers for me ;) Pino 10:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Translation Help
Hi, Paul! I haven't talked to you in a while. When you get a chance, do you think you could translate the Sesamstraat Kijk-, Lees- & Luister-Club page? I'm really interested in tying that together with the American versions of the stories on those tapes. So if you can help, that would be great! Talk to you later! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Paul, sorry to ask you another question so soon, but can you take a look at the record for Abrete Sesamo? The record has a really different number than the tape, and I think it's wrong, but I can't read the whole number. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * All the records Ive added I have them myself (unless the track info is missing) And I don't know why the numbers are different. But they are correct :) Pino 17:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I blew up both pictures, and the record looks like it says 5 81730, and the tape says 40-81730. So do you have a copy that says LSP 13253?  If so, then we can note it on the article.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * LSP 13253 is the number that stands on my record.. Maybe there is a difference like the first two records of the Dutch version.. After two year they where reissued because Philips stoped their record production for Sesamstraat records.Pino 06:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, after I talked to you I found some other copies online, and they list the LSP number, so maybe there are 2 covers, and you got one with the 81730 on the cover, but the LSP number inside. I'll make a note.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ehm not really.. it also has the LSP number on the cover... I think there where two factories then who pressed them for CBS or something?Pino 19:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, really? I thought you had put up the one that's already there.  Can you scan your cover?  I like when we have different covers! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My record doesn't fit unther my scanner... When I have my new camera I will take a picture from it ok?Pino 10:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, that will be great! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Ernie and Bert album
Hi, Paul! Do you happen to know the number for the Vrido edition of the Ernie and Bert album with a blue cover? I don't know what it's called in Dutch, but in English it's "I didn't know you were angry!" Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I shall take a look and restore it ok? 'k Wist Niet Dat Je Kwaad Werd! Pino 16:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism again
Hi again, Paul. I'm afraid you plagiarized again on Iftah Ya Simsim. Please read the plagiarism policy again, but I'll spell it out for you. Copying *any* and all text whole cloth without acknowledgement is plagiarism, no matter what the website is or whether you think it's okay. The sole exception is material from Wikipedia or other Wikis which are governed by licensing which allowes for free sharing and use. Otherwise, put direct quotes *within* quotation marks and note where they're from. If there's any other pages you created which still include such statements (I was a little unsure about some of the Sesamstraat video game entries), please either change them, or if you're copying from the packaging or booklet, place an "Official text" heading or something. You do a lot of good work, Paul, but this is a very serious concern, so please be very careful from now on (or else we might have to block you for a time). Thanks, and don't take this too hard, just be careful. If you're not sure how to write an entry without plagiarizing, mention your source on the talk page and ask other people to work it into the article. We do this a lot. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this better? I tried to make my own words.. but now I totally changed sentences etc... Its hard to find out what is or isn't pagiatismPino 23:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's all in the policy. If you don't understand it, please ask. Copying facts and info isn't plagiarism. Copying whole sentences word for word, so it shows up in a Google search (which is how I cottoned onto it) *is*. I just reworked it myself, but when in doubt, let other people know what your source is and ask them to write it. You can feel free to copy whole text on the *talk page*, as long as you include a link to where it's from, but you should never ever do so on an actual article. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok I understand this.. What about photo's? I am working on original pictures from the database I have added the link to. Can I insert them when they release those to me?
 * I have explained the purpose for the pictures I requested to them ;)Pino 23:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Photos are an entirely different matter. If you get approval, you can use them, and in general, we tend to be fairly loose about images anyway. As long as it's not from a puppet designer/builder's portfolio site, almost anything goes and can be chalked up to fair use. Text plagiarism never can. Hope that clears things up! And again, if there's any past articles where you copied sentences word for word or nearly so (I caught it on this and that miniature attraction, but I don't know if it happened elsewhere), I'd appreciate your reworking it when you get a chance, or like I said, putting an "Official text" header and note where it's from (booklet, packaging, etc.); that's what we do when we use biographies from Sesame Workshop or full press releases as placeholders. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

moved from other page Andrew. Ehm This text is I guess you refering too? Also the other texts on Sesamstraat Videogame are writen by myself.. There wasn't any example I had.. Only my own experience with the games we have at work... There o the boxes wasn't writen that much.Pino 23:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Paul, any time you use your own words, that's fine. Copying exact text is plagiarism. The thing is, you alone have access to your sources and unless we stumble upon the websites you copied, we have no idea which pages are yours or which might be plagiarized. If Iftah Yah Simsim and the miniature attraction were the only pages you plagiarized, that's fine. If you did so on any others, just go back to them as soon as you can and fix things, or ask for help if you need it. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Puppets
Hi, Paul! I'm a little confused by the changes you've made to the puppet pages. I changed Plaza Sésamo puppets (Lili Ledy) since I have the brochure scan and the facts didn't gel, but what about Sesame Street puppets (Harbert)? You took out the company name and the text now implies that these were just re-issues of the Child Guidance toys (possible in this case, definitely not for the Mexican toys). Do you have a source for that? -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No the puppets where produced under the name Harbert and Vicma and Leli Ledy.. And I also know there was a Japanese factory (But Cant find the name anymore) All the facturies made the puppets the same way as Child Guidance Toys... But they all (excluded Lily Ledy and Vicma) The Same stamp in the back of the heads as Child Guidense Toys... The only thing that puzzles me is that on the carton box they refered to Questor... And Child Guidence Toys the same time...My guess is that CGT made them first and later sold the product to the factorys so they could copy them (or re-issue them)Pino 16:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Sesamstraat in Madurodam‎
Hi, Paul! Similar to Danny's message about Linda Weber, did you copy and paste all the text on that page, or just some of it? It sounds like a travel brochure, not an article. When you get a chance, you really need to rewrite it in your own words, trim the park's history (all of that's on their website, I presume), and make the Sesamstraat exhibition the focus and forefront of the article. And please don't copy text again, since that's plagiarism and against Wiki policy. If you're unsure how to write something, you can park text as quotes on a talk page (making it clear where it came from), or just take a stab and let other people expand and correct grammar and so on. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I talked to someone on a stand about adding this information online and marketing approved for this so I dont think that plagiarism could be a point on this one.. As for the history I shall shrink it ;).
 * Let me know if it look better now?Pino 11:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A someone did it alreadyPino 11:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Linda Weber
Hi, Paul -- I noticed that the text you added on the Linda Weber page was copied from this page. It's not good for us to copy and paste text from another website -- it makes the wiki look bad. Can you rewrite that text in your own words? Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure... Right away!Pino 23:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I love the new pages on Clean! and Zikwe's Goat. It's really cool that you found those books! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As an international collector I also ordered them.. Later on I can add some more information.
 * At the moment I'm restyling my room to make it more like an archive. When I'm finished I can finaly make the pictures and displays I wanted to add on the site.. I have a lot of other toys stocked at the moment. ;) Pino 00:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Publishing Companies
Hey, Paul! I wanted to let you know that when you create song pages, the "Publisher" line is for the company that holds the copyright to the song itself, not the record company. For example, the old US Sesame records would have songs published by Jonico Music or Festival Attractions, not Columbia or Warner Brothers. Hope this helps! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Sesame Street Fever
Hey, Paul! Thanks for adding the French version. Do you know of any other French (or any other European) versions of US albums? It looks like the catalog number was the first of a series, and it would be great if there were others! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I sometimes find these by browsing. At the moment I dont know a sesame street album that came out other then the ones i've all added...Pino 19:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Enciclopedia Abrete Sesamo
Hey, Paul, do you actually have these, or did you just get the covers from somewhere else? I think it would be cool if we can list what's in the books, and maybe even link them to the English versions. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm getting these soon (I hope) I have another version... We can put them online as well.. And the listing whats in those we can make right away.. Do you want to help me with that, as I apernently minamed them? I only need one example page to make the restPino 15:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Paul!
Merry Christmas! Thanks for all the record stuff you've been adding. I wanted to ask you about the Perfect Harmony LP you added. What is the label and number? I've never seen that version before. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas to you too Ken! The Perfect Harmony LP I've added came from Muppetcentral news. http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2007/091407.shtml maybe Philip Chapman knows what the label is? I only know it was the first record with this titel because I once saw this one on ebay.. (bad shape) As for an other Lp ive dicovered.. a first edition from Bert en Ernie vervelen zich nooit!.. A tototally different sleeve with Ernie Bert and Gorver standing on it.   -- <font color="Blue">Paul  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:55, 26 December 2007 (CET)

Sesamstraat Writers
Hi, again, Paul! Pardon my questioning, but how many Sesamstraat writers are you in a position to create pages for, given you created a new category which right now has one entry? -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * There are at leas 7 writers that I know of.. I just started with this one because he has a blog and website with program information.. The rest will follow later. -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:51, 10 December 2007 (CET)
 * How much later is the question, though. Otherwise, I'd recommend sticking him in Category:International Production Crew, which is there for that reason, until you can find info on the others. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, Paul! Those pages look great. Sorry for the questions earlier, but when the category predates the creation of any articles to go in it, I naturally wonder a little. I did some clean-up on Chris Winsemius, but there was some odd formatting on the titles at the end. Since they're all redlinks right now, I wasn't sure how best to correct them (or whether the "met Pino" etc. is part of the title), so please correct any goofs there. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The titel is Naar zee.. but the undertitel is met Pino, Tommie en Ieniemienie.. I dont know how to put it correctly? -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:36, 9 December 2007 (CET)
 * Either just like that, "Naar zee met" etc., or just mention the subtitle when you create the article (which is what we often do with TV specials and such). Italics inside the brackets just break the brackets. -- 20:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Japanese CD's/LP's
Hi,Paul! Do you have any of the Japanese albums? Some of the label names are missing, and I was hoping you could help with that. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I have only the one Ive added with label.. But also the years of the others I am not sure... Im searching for more infor though. Also the label Pony Canyon is a bit strange.. It says this on each site Ive founded, but the cd's all have also a label logo that sais Music Index and Yaspac.... -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:38, 8 December 2007 (CET)

Merchandise Categories
Hi, Paul! I know you've been itching to create subcategories, but I'd like to encourage you to raise the issue individually for each show before you create it. I think one reason you're not getting the response you want is that it's not clear what you're talking about, and as Wendy said over on Ken's talk page, shows need to be assessed individually, with numbers. In the case of 1 Rue Sesame, the album subcat makes perfect sense, since there's 15 albums. The other merchandise less so, since right now there's five items (and I deleetd the misc. category, which again, isn't needed with that few). I know you're probably going to add more, but, especially since the articles all have the show title in front (save the mask one which I renamed, since it was one item dealing with one character), having a subcat doesn't make them that much easier to find than having them in the main category, and right now you're double categorizing them anyway, which defeats the purpose. I'm not trying to discourage you, but before you create a new category next time, raise the question (I'd recommend doing it on either the show article's talk page, or on the general merchandise page, *but* clearly labeled by show, with examples, so we know what you have in mind, instead of raising it as a vague, broad issue). Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What I try to do is the same as someone had done for the merchendise from Norway. There is more made over in France then they did there. There are more things produced.. but I dont have all the pictures made yet.... I also have a pyama in the form of tocatta, a boardgame, 2 puzzle, books, 2 toys that can be windup and 2 toys that weeble with a bel in it, two bathfigures.. Maybe you can categorise them? -- <font color="Blue">Paul  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:13, 4 December 2007 (CET)
 * Right now, if there's two or less of each, I'd say put it all in the same merchandise category, or at best, a miscellaneous category and a "toys" one, but right now, it sounds like a single main category, plus the album category, works best with what you have. That definitely would help flesh it out. I'm fine with the category, I just wanted to give you a heads up for next time. Also, that way if you're unsure of how to arrange things, others can offer suggestions on whether there's enough items to justify subcats, or only enough for a general category for that show, or not enough for that. For example, if a show has, say, 10 albums but two to six other items total that you're aware of, an album subcat would work but the rest could just be listed on the show page in a "Merchandise" list. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok.. but now also Sesam Stasjon albums are gone? what was wrong with those? -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:55, 4 December 2007 (CET)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. I don't see any deletions of Sesam Stasjon albums (just singles, per a long ago decision to merge singles either with the parent album or in a discography chart). All I see is that Wendy took out the double categorization (since if there's a subcat, they shouldn't be in the main category; that's the whole point) and created a discography page. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Since they have their own category Category:Sesam Stasjon Albums, I put them into a discography and took them out of the International Albums category. It's marginal in this case (5 albums; presumably one more out there), but I had pulled them when I created Category:Sesam Stasjon Merchandise.  So now everything with more than 1 or 2 albums is done the same way in the International category, which looks cleaner to me.


 * Incidentally, Ken and I both dislike having individual pages for singles, so I've been merging some of the International singles back onto the LP album pages with which they are associated. We don't have separate pages for Sesame Street singles (or any other show for that matter) so it seemed odd to have them for International Sesame Street.    In case you wondered why those all went missing as well.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I looks great.. its much clearer to vieuw this way.... Maybe an idea to get the same layout on all the international sesame street shows that have more then one merchendise? An apart merchendise category like someone has done with sesamstraat? -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:16, 4 December 2007 (CET)

Hi, Paul!
What time is it where you are? It's about 11:45 AM Saturday morning here. It's neat to see you on here at the same time!

When you have a chance, can you let me know which records have covers that fold open? I'm trying to rewrite the text on the discography pages, and I want to make sure we don't say all records have a fold-open cover if some of them don't. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Only the one thas has 2 LP's are fold open. Do you have MSN? Its easier to chat and work -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:50, 1 December 2007 (CET)
 * No, sorry. I just have regular e-mail, and the wiki.  Whenever you have time, I'd like to know what albums fold open, so we can put that on the page.  Thanks for your help! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Het allerbeste uit Sesamstraat folds open and has some pictures inside.. If I find out how to make proper fotos without flash on it I will take some to put them on the wiki-- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:26, 1 December 2007 (CET)

Lieder Aus Der Sesamstrasse und Andere Lustige Songs
Just for the record, Paul, does the album actually credit Peter Kirchberger and Wolfgang Kieling? -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.europa-vinyl.de/e3518.php3 this is the link I found my information on.. I believe they didnt sing, but talked between the songs on this record. -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:23, 26 November 2007 (CET)
 * Yeah, that's not a very good source. At the time, Kirchberger was not the voice of Ernie on the show (Gerd Duwner) was. It seems like the person was making a guess based on the fact that they sound like the originals. So I'm going to take it out until such time as you or someone else actually finds the album and can verify. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Now that you mention it, I'm starting to think this isn't even a real SS album.  See Talk:Lieder Aus Der Sesamstrasse und Andere Lustige Songs. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Sesamstraat Discography
Hey, Paul, can you take a look at the top of the discography page? The text doesn't agree with the chart, as far as what years the different companies put out records. I didn't want to change it without asking you, because I have no idea which one is right, and since you've got the records in front of you, it's easier for you to check. Also, is WSP the same as Weton-Wesgram? I noticed that some pages say one, and some pages say the other. Does WSP stand for something? I hope I'm not asking too many questions at once! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Its a bit difficult because the records say Vrido and WSP. I gues the label is WSP but it was produced by Vrido and that company was taken over by Weten Wesgram. Please change it if you like. The label is just what the record label ays right? Well on the record it ways only WSP.. but the cover shows WSP and on the bottom Vrido or Weten Wesgram.. On some pages I read that it is called just weton (WSP) and its changed the other discription into Vrido or Weton Wesgram. There isnt a lot of internet iformatoin to find about the label.<font color="Blue">Paul  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:05, 21 November 2007 (CET)
 * Okay, that sounds like the situation we had in the US where the Sesame Street Records (label) had 2 different distibutors, and some of them came out more than once, and the label had 2 different designs. But we're still calling all of them Sesame Street Records, based on the name that's on the label.  Can you maybe scan some of the record labels, and maybe some of the back covers where it gives the things like the address of the company?  If it's still WSP, but 2 different companies handled it, I'm inclined to go with WSP to be consistent, and we can just mention on the discography page that the records have had more than one distributor.  Also, do you know if these companies only did children's records, or did they do other things?  I'm just curious because I've been interested in learning about records all my life, and I've never heard of any of these labels, except for Philips, which used to have an American division back in the 1960's.


 * It's amazing that I've been here for 9 months, and I've never met you before, and now in the last month or so, you've been working really hard on the records! Keep it up! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Sesamstraat Songs
Hey, Paul, can you hold off on creating any more pages for translated Sesamstraat songs? (If you want to create pages for songs created specifically for the show, though, go ahead). I've raised the issue on Talk:Troeteleendje‎. As noted there, there was a brief discussion of the issue a few days ago, and Wendy and I were in agreement that a translated song doesn't need an individual page. I'd appreciate if you wait until others weigh in on the discussion. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And the Dutch versions that where made only here? Can I do those? There where a lot of Bert and Ernie Material and Pino, Tommie and Ieniemienie.-- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:26, 20 November 2007 (CET)
 * That's what I meant when I said "songs created specifically for the show." I don't think there's any issue surrounding that, since it wouldn't be repeating info in the way the other pages do right now. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Havin' Fun in Australia
Hey, Paul! I wanted to mention that if you have an Australian edition of Havin' Fun with Ernie and Bert, we're not making separate pages for international versions. Just put the album's picture on the US version's page, and we'll make a note that this also came out in Australia. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I had a doubt about this one. I saw it on Ebay and the order of the songs was different then the us version. When I get a better picture I shall put it on the american version. Though it can have a link from the international albums or not? -- <font color="Blue">Paul  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:14, 17 November 2007 (CET)
 * Well, we like to have one page for every album, even if it has multiple editions. For example, take a look at The Muppet Show and The Muppet Movie.  The US release is at the top, and the gallery at the bottom has all known US reissues and versions from other countries.  International albums are for albums that were made just for a certain country's version of Sesame Street, and it's the stuff that only came out in that country.  I hope that made sense.  If you're not sure about something, I'm sure Wendy and Scott can explain it better. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Album reissue
Hi, Paul -- You added another article for the CD reissue of 'k Wist Niet Dat Je Kwaad Werd!. If the track listing is the same, then they can share the same page. I added the new picture and info to the original page, and deleted the reissue page. I hope that's okay with you... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm confused about your addition to the Sesamstraat Discography page, though -- are you adding the 1993 CD, or something else? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Im adding cds now Those have sometimes the same and other times different numbers.. also the years on the Discography from the Cd's are sometimes incorrect.. I have a large pile in from of me and I try to make the list correct.

As for the reissue records they look the same, but the picture is different because they are from Vrido and not Philips Records.. So they walso have diff label name and numbers.. Is ther a better way to put the little diffrences on one page so anyone sees them-- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:10, 9 November 2007 (CET)
 * Hi, Paul. This is Ken. Here's what we're doing for the American albums.  If they have had more than one cover or number change, we're putting the main cover at the top of the album's page, and then we're putting the other covers at the bottom.  We're also putting the other covers on the big picture chart, and when you click on it, they will go right to the original album's page.  Check out The Sesame Street Book & Record to see how it's done.  Hope this helps! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

International Merchandise
Hi Paul, I moved your question to Category talk:International Merchandise so that everyone sees it. —Scott ( talk ) 22:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Sesamstraat Records
Hi, Paul! My name's Ken, and I'm really into the American Sesame Street records. I just wanted to say that I really like all the work you've done on the Dutch records. I'm really interested in the music CD's that are translations of American songs. Do you know if they sell them outside of Europe? I'd love to get some, especially Rubber Duckie! It's nice to talk to you! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Same here... I collect them too! Maybe you can mail me thourgh my home page Sesameplanet? Its easier to chat. -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:04, 6 November 2007 (CET)
 * Hey! Awesome job on making the Sesamstraat list into a picture chart!  I was going to start that, but it's a really big chart, and I didn't want to have to stop in the middle if I didn't have time to finish it.


 * By the way, I tried to click on your home page link on your user page, but it doesn't work. Does your site have another name? -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Or just mail me at sesameplanet@chello.nl... -- <font color="Blue">Paul (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:22, 7 November 2007 (CET)

Fernando Gomes
Someone on the Portuguese Wikipedia says that, at one time or another, Poupas was played by Gomes. Do you know if this would be true, that this isn't Gomes' first Sesame role? -- Zanimum 18:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry.. There isnt a lot known about the Portuguese version. At leats not public on internet ;( -- <font color="Blue">Pino (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:13, 27 October 2007 (CET)

Sweetums
Hi Paul -- In August, you added a couple sentences to the Sweetums article about the original puppet being damaged in a fire. Can you tell me where you got that information from? It's a great bit of info, and I'd like to print the source. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ive heared it on muppetcentral or our own toughpigs forum a few years ago... It was I believe an article with Richard Hunt telling his part of the characters he played and some facts... Maybe The monster database knows more about the exact history. -- <font color="Blue">Pino (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:41, 14 September 2007 (CET)
 * I believe that you meant Jerry Nelson. It couldn't have been Richard Hunt. --Minor muppetz 01:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was an article from the eighties I believe. i wish i knew where I read it exactly.. There should be a link still online about muppetmonsters. -- <font color="Blue">Pino (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 13:02, 16 September 2007 (CET)
 * I don't think that site is up anymore. In general, we need to have sources for backstage information like that. When you post behind-the-scenes information, you should also post the book, magazine or website where you learned it. That way, we can be sure that people's memories are correct. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Page Creation
Hey, Paul! Good to see you here again, but I just saw Titouan. Remember, if you want to create a new page, just edit your address screen at the top, changing the title of the current article to whatever you want to create. You don't have to try to take a red-link, make it a re-direct, and then blank it. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Atlast now i understand what you peope talked about all the time! Sorry I didnt understand before... My English isnt that good. Ok thanks Andrew! It saves a lot of time now! -- <font color="Blue">Paul Bokdam (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:41, 8 February 2007 (CET)

International Actors
Hey, Paul! Just a reminder, Category:International Sesame Street Actors is just that, for actors only. Human characters go under characters. Just so you know. The two categories shouldn't be mixed. Thanks! <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh ok.. I thought characters meant only the muppets.. and Actors the humans on the street. Its a bit confusing if people go with muppets.. Can't we split that into International Characters and International Muppets? For foreign readers its more understandeble that way> <font color="Blue">Paul Bokdam  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:55, 2 August 2006 (CET)


 * Not really. We don't put Bob in Category:Sesame Street Cast, just Bob McGrath. That's how every category works, international or otherwise. Characters means every character, from Muppets to humans to unseen characters like Uncle Rudolf. Category:Sesame Street Characters includes all Sesame Street characters, human, Muppet, unseen, and animated. There's no seperate "Sesame Street Muppet" category and the international one doesn't need such a separation either. There's a catch all Category:Human Characters category if you want to add the international humans to that, but creating a seperate International Muppet category, when they're already listed as Muppet Characters, is rather pointless. Actors always means human performers, that is the person and not the role portrayed. <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

International Sesame Street Categories

 * Hi, Danny -- I try to understand why you delete all changes about the international sesamestreet merchendise. I mean Jog conected the pvs to sesamstraat so I thought it would be easier to connect the Spanish versions to Barrio Sesamo. But the links where deleted. Is there a reason for it? -- Paul Pino 19:36, 19 February 2006 (CET)
 * Hi Paul -- Yeah, I was just going to leave you a message about it. Sorry, I should have left the message first, before I started making the changes.
 * The original intention of the International Sesame Street category was to have all of the information about the international shows under one category. I actually requested that Jog split Sesamstraat out of the larger category, because he had added so much information that it was overwhelming the other items in the categories. (For example, he'd added about 30 Sesamstraat albums, so the International Sesame Street Albums category was almost entirely Sesamstraat albums.) That's why we decided to give that show its own categories. Sesamstraat has a long history, parallel to the US Sesame Street, and Jog has a lot of information to add. Later, Julian made the same request for Sesamstrasse.
 * I don't think it's a good idea to have a full set of categories for most of the other shows. 1, Rue Sesame only lasted a few years, and Barrio Sesamo has a pretty patchwork history too. You were creating categories like "1, Rue Sesame PVC Figures", when you really only had one article's worth of information. We don't need different categories for "1, Rue Sesame Characters", "1, Rue Sesame Dolls", "1, Rue Sesame Albums", etcetera, for all thirty international shows. I've already talked to Scott and Andrew about this; we all agree that we don't need full categories for the other shows.
 * For now, I think we should keep that information in the "International Sesame Street" categories that already exist. If there's a particular show that you've added a lot of information about -- for example, if you have tons of info on Plaza Sesamo, or whatever -- then we can talk about setting up separate categories for that show.
 * Is that okay with you? -- Danny Toughpigs 18:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, Danny -- Now I understand... I didn't know what to think about it. I spoke with Scott about the changs I made earlier and how that invluenced the MuppetWiki's layout and way of how it looks. So thats why I made the sperated categories about France and Spain when I saw the way Jog did with Sesamstraat. Is there a way I can come in contact with you easier when I'm on Muppet Wiki? Like MSN. That can be a better way of working. It saves time and work for us both? Greetings Paul Pino 20:00, 19 February 2006 (CET)
 * No, I don't have MSN... This is actually a better way of talking anyway, because it creates a saved record of the conversations, for everybody to see. That way, we can learn from other people's conversations, and things only need to get figured out once. Anyway, I'm sorry again that I deleted stuff without talking to you about it. That was really thoughtless of me. -- Danny Toughpigs 18:58, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Deleting messages
Hi, Paul -- It's actually not a good idea to delete messages from your talk page. Talk pages are part of the history of the wiki; messages posted there help everybody to see what's been happening. Please don't delete messages. -- Danny Toughpigs 09:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Move
Paul, I'm trying to understand what you're doing with the dozens of article moves you've been making and I've been failing tragically. I'm not sure you have a full handle on how creating articles really works. Please make sure you read the Help:Contents and Help:Wiki FAQ pages. Also, it might help you to play around on the Dutch Wikipedia. Without the language barrier, you might find it a lot easier to really learn about how a wiki works. I think it's a really good idea you check those out before you continue with much else. There's some productive work that can be done, but it would be a shame for contributors to end up butting heads on certain things concerning the overall structure of the wiki. -- Scott Scarecroe 23:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * just made things easier to watch in the lp section. The only thing I couldn't find is to start a new itm without getting it lost. So I got a neame like a French singer from an lp and changed that into the item I wanted to create. It looks confusing, but I'm not changing to many things. At leats not that I noticed? But Its a good idea to read the help section at the dutch wikipedia... I din't think of that;) Thanks . -- Paul Pino 0:53, 13 February 2006 (CET)
 * The problem is, Paul, it leads to a lot of empty pages or odd redirects. Here's a tip, if I'm understanding your problem correctly. To create a page for a new record or international product, type the article name you want (checking for spelling and capitalization first) into the Wikicities "Search" bar on the left-hand side of the screen, below the navigation and toolbox pages. If the page doesn't already exist, you'll receive a "No page with this exact title" message, featuring a red link with that title. Click that to start editing, and once created, simply put it on your watch list so you don't lose it. Apart from that, Scott's advice about studying Wiki usage is worth following. --Andrew, Aleal 00:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Toots Thielemans
Hey Paul, what did Toots Thielemans do with the Muppets? You created a page with just a link and nothing else. -- Scott Scarecroe 02:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that. Apparently he played the harmonica on some versions of the Sesame Street theme song. So it's somewhat releveant, but not sure where to put it, and it needs fleshing out (apparently the same link is included on the Sesame Street page). Got any more info, Pino? --Andrew, Aleal 02:34, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I only noticed his name in this article and added the link to his page. I know he is famous in Holland and that he is one of the best harmonica players. Also he played a lot of that in Sesame Street's songs. Thats why I thought .. mm I'll put a link to an English website so when people are curious, they can learn more about this Belgian musician ;) --Paul, Paul 17:46, 10 February 2006 (CET)

Welcome
Hi, Paul, it's good to see you here! Check out the Wiki Tips page to help you get started. Let me know if you have any questions! -- Toughpigs 15:51, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi Danny... thanks.. I'm working offcourse on the international versions of sesamestreet.. I have some information here and there. I even have contact now with the old cameraman from rua sesamo... But I cant figure out how to ad a new sesame street version... Like Vila Sesamo? 17:04, 30 Dec 2005 (CET)


 * Yeah, that's cool -- it'll be great to see what you add to the international pages, cause I know you're an expert! There's information on starting a new page here: Help:New_page -- let me know if it's still confusing, though. Also, I have a couple tips for posting on Talk pages: You should put new messages at the top of the Talk page, under a new heading. To sign your message, put four tildes in a row, like this: -- ~ . That automatically adds a signature and a date stamp. (Check out Help:Talk_pages for more.) It takes a little while to get used to how the wiki works, but once you get it, it's really easy! -- Toughpigs 16:08, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Sesame
Ive edited a picture of the old gang and some information about them to give it more historian value