User talk:Toughpigs

Cookie Monster Image Dates
Hey, can you confirm the date or pedigree of this image? Image:Letteroftheday.jpg Dean's changed the text on Cookie Monster Through the Years, so the current version claims that this picture represents Cookie from 1982 onward, but still includes the "David Rudman now performs Cookie" text, which is misleading. (Did we ever reach a consensus about whether or not to mention performer recasts, by the way?) I already left a direct query to him on his page, but since you uploaded the image, I thought I'd ask you as well. Is that indeed from a more recent Letter of the Day sketch? And has Cookie gone through absolutely no alterations since 1982? --Andrew, Aleal 19:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * That's from Letter of the Day, from a few seasons ago. I think we decided no recast info on the Through the Years pages. I have no idea if the puppet's changed since 1982. And Dean is on crack. -- Danny Toughpigs 19:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I give you...
Holly Robinson Peete. I'm pleasantly surprised at how much cool Sesame related trivia and anecdotal stuff I was able to find with a simple Google search. Still need to fix Matt Robinson's page too at one point, along with the other cast members who still have stubs or Sesame Workshop press blurbs. He certainly comes across as one of the more complex cast members (though I've also found some interesting rebuttals to Loretta Long's dissertation and other academic writings about the positive pedagogical/social impact of Sesame Street, which need to be added). --Andrew, Aleal 19:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Fantastic! Oh, there's so much stuff to add. I was talking to Scott on the phone the other day, and we both agreed that these days, we look around at our sizeable collections and think, man, look at all that unprocessed data. -- Danny Toughpigs 19:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Huh?
You're not proud of being the first online source of Muppet information? I liked that info there. -- Scott Scarecroe 14:30, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No, it was incredibly lame. I'm not sure it ever even happened. The guy who was setting up DigitalPopcorn liked the zine, and he asked if he could post it all up there, and I said yeah, and then (in a fit of optimism) I wrote about it in the zine. About two or three months later, DigitalPopcorn went kablooie. The guy stopped returning my e-mails. I have no idea if any MuppetZine info actually got up there, and honestly, I never really understood what DigitalPopcorn was in the first place. It was 1993, and I didn't even know what websites were until 1995.


 * So I've always been vaguely embarrassed that I made such a big deal about it in one of the MZ issues, and I've comforted myself by remembering that nobody read them anyway.


 * Anyway, if you want to hype up the MuppetZine article, then go ahead. There's plenty of things about the zine that I'm very proud of. Just not that bit. -- Danny Toughpigs 15:21, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Bulletin boards were the precursor to websites. You dialed directly in to a network that carried board listings and you could log into them. So if he posted anything, your Muppet coverage was on the Internet even before the World Wide Web. -- Scott Scarecroe 19:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * But if a bulletin board fails on the internet and nobody is around to see it, does it make a sound? -- Danny Toughpigs 19:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure it leaves a funky smell. --Peter Pantalones 19:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Fictional Celebrities
I just created a rough version of a Fictional Celebrities list (famous characters from outside media who appeared or were portrayed in Henson/Muppet productions, not counting Muppet portrayals or adaptations like The Cat in the Hat and The King of Id). Thing I'm unsure about is whether to create pages for any of these characters who don't already have articles here, or just include the Muppet relevant info and maybe a note about where they're from, and leave it at that, on the list itself. Luke Skywalker and Ernestine the Telephone Operator had heavy interaction with the Muppets fully as characters, while on the other hand, Peter Sellers and Jim Nabors only played Inspector Clouseau and Gomer Pyle in one sketch each (and Sellers' was in the brief opening). Should that make a difference, or should we just go hog wild? (As I suspect when Nate sees this, he'll want to play with it). The biggest grey area is probably in the literary characters, things like Long John Silver, Ebenezer Scrooge, and Dorothy Gale, to say nothing of the fairy tale folks, though I'm tempted to toss them all in as long as they're intended as the same character and not a clear parody variation (Cinderella and The Stepmother might count by that standard, while Elmo's Stepmother wouldn't). Thoughts? --Andrew, Aleal 13:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sweetie, I hate to say it, but I have no idea what you're talking about. -- Danny Toughpigs 15:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * So in other words, you don't care? Basically, I'm asking if you'd mind if the Wiki were to suddenly be cluttered up with articles on Red Green, Gomer Pyle, Maid Marian, Irving Cohn or Hans Heinz, or if just mentioning them on that page would suffice. As is often the case, I'm concerned with having an understanding of how the page will operate and any unwritten limits for when others jump in, or if it really doesn't matter, and the old tenet "If someone wants a page on the Janitor from the Carol Burnett Show, let them" comes into effect. I want to, if not forestall entirely, at least maybe limit the kind of "Is this page necessary?" debates which have been cropping up lately. --Andrew, Aleal 15:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I care, I just didn't understand the question. Now that I get it, I think it's a cool idea, and go hog wild with it. Why not? -- Danny Toughpigs 15:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hog Wild? Was that a fat joke?  --Nate Radionate 15:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * If there isn't a Muppet called Hog Wild, then there oughta be. Don't you think? -- Danny Toughpigs 15:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

for you
Cleopatra -- Scott Scarecroe 23:29, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, you're my favorite. -- Danny Toughpigs 12:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

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