User:Aleal/Talk Archive 08

Archive of Andrew's talk page.

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I love the picture we have to represent the 22nd letter of the alphabet — Scott  (talk ) 20:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah. The letters in general could use some love. Not with obsessive transcription of the inserts, but fun images and lists of sample words, which don't necessarily have to be the ones Sesame would use. I'm debating whether to link S to Stripper (Sesame Street did have a skit on how G stands for go-go dancer). -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 20:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Go-go dancer. That's awesome. — Scott (talk ) 20:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Remind me to upload a screengrab of that! -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 20:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Enid Cafritz
Nice work! — Scott (talk ) 14:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm pretty thrilled. Still skimpy, but at least we have few basics and a good starting point (and in this case, I didn't feel a need to be wary of it being a different person with the same name, since how many women in the past century would be named "Enid Cafritz?") Say, you don't happen to have any of the La Choy ads, especially the "Housewife" one? I'm hoping to eventually solve some other actor mysteries, housed at Henson Film Actors Notes for now, so I can save my research without prematurely creating a potentially wrong actor page. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 14:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll have to check and see what I ave for la Choy stuff. But yeah, I should have something along those lines. — Scott (talk ) 15:25, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hooray! I have a strong feeling that the woman in the Baker Films *is* Saralou Cooper, the same woman in the Housewife ad, but without having seen that ad, I'm reluctant to rely on a YouTube person's comment. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 15:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Looney Tunes
Do you want me to hang onto those pictures a little longer? — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, please! I just labeled them (I can never find the Image Portal thingummy when I need it). I know it's been a week or so, but ghive me time! Now I'm all pressured. I don't think we ever did decide how to do it, but I'll try and create a blanket Looney Tunes page, describe the issue, mention the Bugs and Daffy cameos and one Sesame reference to Bugs, and include any connections. I'm glad I'd resaved the Sesame comic image too (I removed it from Cliff Roberts the other day, having found an actual picture of the man, but I'm piecing together bits of info and images to create an article on the actual comic strip). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It's alright, don't feel pressured. I'll place them in the Image Chamber (named because I thought it would be easy to remember). Also, what links to Image:Junkpeople.jpg, and is it just there temporarily? — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Discussion with Matt/Cantus on his userpage, over whether they even existed. He's the one who created the Junk People redlink, though, so I guess it's up to him if he wants to use it. Anyway, now I must once again live in fear of the image reaper. Hooray! -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * And thanks, the redirect may help. I may not have mentioned it, but I admit I have trouble remembering which pages have a Muppet Wiki prefix, whether it's "MuppetWiki" or "Muppet Wiki," and so on. I have the same problem with images labeled character. etc., but I generally have an easier time locating them and just copying the tag. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, could you re-upload your Image:Babybean.JPG image? There was a database error that night and some images got screwed up. — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Character's Toys Category?
Hey Andrew! Remember when we were talking about a seperate category for toys and similar items that belong to characters (like Teddy Bird, Radar, David, etc.)? I was just reminded of it when I saw that David is in Category: Muppet Props. Any idea on what it should be called? Because after looking around some more, I definitely think its a worthwhile category to include. --Cantus Rock 00:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, items like David would and should remain in props, since they are. But a second category to group them wouldn't hurt. I've thought of "Muppet Toys," but it depends partially on whether you want to merely include inanimate prop toys, or things like Rugby Tiger or Puppets as well. Or simply a list, as opposed to a category, like Muppet Pets. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Admittedly I'm not familiar enough to know; why would David be considered a prop and not fit in the category? Because if it is just a toy, it could be both. But as for what should be in the group, I'd say that it should be confined to solely inanimate toys, including those that while manipulated by others, have no life on their own. Thus, The Puppets would be in, but Rugby would not be. A list works too, its either or on that. Whatcha think? --Cantus Rock 03:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't say he wouldn't fit in, but that he would stay in props regardless. Unless he speaks or moves, he's still a prop, like Geraldine or Hardware Gonzo. And if you're going to limit it to inanimate toys, then I don't know what to call it, outside of Inanimate Toys. Really, for now, since you're not quite sure what to do and I don't want to suggest, I say start with a list (and since we re-organized lists, put it uinder Category:Character Lists for now). It's easier to rename a list, and if it proves that it would be beneficial as a category, that can be done too. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Done and Done. Also, I was thinking that the Puppets don't belong on the list, because there is no defined character who claims ownership of them. Other like puppets might if there is a clear owner. I think that, paired with what I put on the page (which probably should be reworded; like the title itself, describing the list in a brief explanatory statement is tricky), should be a good set of criterion. --Cantus Rock 06:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hope I am doing this right
Thanks for the warm welcome, my real name (suprisingly) is Andrew Smith. I shall try to incorporate your suggestions into my postings. -- AndrewSmith 16:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Tarzan
Heya, do you know where I might have taken this screenshot? I forget which episode it came from and I already checked Wild Animals. — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I have no idea where you get your screenshots. For all I know, you might have Elmo tied up in your backyard. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Cute. See if I share with you my episode of "Elmo's World: Closets" now. — <font color="Blue">Scott (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 16:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Awww. Do I still get to see "Elmo's World: Hubbard Squash"? And seriously, I have no idea. I'll take another glance at the episode listing later on. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk )

Labyrinth game question?
Hey Andrew (not Alex)! Just curious what your question about the English in the Labyrinth game was? Something to do with the originality of the text? Just peaked my interest, after doing the research (ie. going around in circles throwing rocks at fairies, lol). Lemme know, I might be able to shed some light (maybe not, but its worth a shot!) :) --Cantus Rock 05:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I was curious about whether the English text was in fact in the actual game or added by someone when it made the internet rounds (which happens). It seemed unlikely to me, and with the "mangled English" caption misleading, to suggest the bizarre statement was a translation error. It was either added later, or like the equally wacky dialogue game Earthbound, the result of very bored programmers with puckish senses of humor. Probably can't be proved either way by those of us outside of Japan, though. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, though I of course don't have an original copy of the game, I've worked with ROMs and emulators for a long while and I'd be confident in saying that the ROM I was using for research was ported in its entirety, untouched by outside programmers. I'll talk to some of my connections in the competitive gaming circuit to confirm that, but I'm 98% certain. Like many Japanese games (and products in general...quite noticable in J-pop music and print advertisements), English is interjected, but as it is not the native tongue, its wording is often improper. In this case, I think its that combined with the Earthbound-type humor of the original programming staff. I'd liken it to when there is a funny piece of foreign text in a film (ie. on a billboard or street sign) that, while merely blending in to the eyes of a person unfamiliar with the language, is ubsurd and thus comical to a person who does speak the language. I can't remember the film, but the example is avenue lèvres de singe -- to an English-speaker, a French street sign; but French-speakers laugh at the sign, which translates to "Monkey Lips Avenue." So the mangled text is like half-funny because its intended as such, and the other half because of the language barrier. I'm rambling, I hope I conveyed whatever point I was attempting. :)


 * The dialogue in the game is interesting to me in general though, English and Japanese. I'd love to know what the Japanese texts of characters like The Worm and The Wiseman translate into. The Worm sometimes involves a Zelda-like exchange of coins, but unfortunately I'm still at a loss as to what the exchange accomplishes. I'm thinking about asking a Japanese co-worker to help me, maybe the other text (if also light-hearted) can lend some more information to the issue. --Cantus Rock 15:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Mopatop Thanks
Andrew, many thanks for sorting out the formatting of the Mopatop entries. That's a very helpful piece of info you posted to me on Danny's talk page. (can I copy that onto my talk page? - it would be a much easier place for me to have it to refer to) Emma 21:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Your welcome! I'd considered posting it there to begin with, but I was tired and strangely intimidated by the signature tests. Anyway, we use a lot of templates on Muppet Wiki (even I can't keep up with them all), and it takes some time to get used to. Awhile back, I did create List of Templates, as sort of a guide for newbies, but never found time or other incentive to finish it. Still, you might want to bookmark it anyway. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thumbs up
Hey babe: I've been super busy/tired this week -- school's starting, and it's kicking my butt -- so I haven't been around much the last few days. I just saw the messages you left on Nick's talk page, and I want to give you a thumbs up on them. It's a shame that he hasn't responded to them. That was worth doing, and worth doing well. I guess we'll see whether he responds... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd sort of figured as much, but it's nice to hear from you anyway! My semester started as well, but there's still a little time (they're still not letting me in the classroom, boo, but I'm still getting my stipend without having to wrestle freshmen, so yay as well), and right now, I'm sort of using the Wiki as an escape (I'm still keeping an eye on my deadlines, though). As you said before, the Wiki is always there. I'm seriously debating whether to go ahead and create a Saralou Cooper page anyway, and just rearrange things if I turn out to be wrong. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)