User:Scarecroe/Talk Archive 23

Archive of Scott's talk page.

Sesame Books by character
I can't tell you why, but I've been seized with a mad whim: Category:Sesame Street Books by main character. If you hate it, tell me before I go too far with it. -- Danny (talk ) 02:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I prefer the format we started with Grover Books. —Scott ( talk ) 02:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think a category is easier to keep up than a list page. -- Danny (talk ) 02:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've stopped. :) I just wanted to do a few, and give you the idea of what I was thinking of. The reason why I think a category is easier is that if you're on, say, Cookie Monster and the Cookie Tree, you might be interested in browsing through some of the other Cookie Monster books. So you could click on the category, and there you are. If we have list pages for those, then we'd still need to add a "See also" on each of the pages, in order to create the same browsing experience. -- Danny (talk ) 02:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Either way we still need to add something to the article. I think the gallery is more fun to look at than a list of blue links in a category. —Scott ( talk ) 02:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * It is more fun, that's true. Maybe I'll start by creating pages like that for all the main characters, and then if we feel like making them into categories, then part of the work's already been done. I don't know why I have a bug in my head about this tonight, but I do, so I might as well go with it. -- Danny (talk ) 02:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that's a good idea. I always meant to follow the Grover Books model for other books anyway, but just never got around to it. —Scott ( talk ) 02:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That's my concern, actually, if I may interject, as awesome as Grover Books is: "Getting around to it." If Danny has the energy to create such pages (heaven knows I don't; fixing the odd alphabetization on the Hollywood Walk of Fame page took over 40 minutes), then its wonderful. But if one of us "doesn't get around to it," it's not the sort of thing a casual user is likely to work on. In which case the categories also have advantages, in that its easier for a new or casual user to add a category tag, or for any of us to do so when we have the time and inclination, than the opposite. That said, with the current general list on the character pages as a reference, albeit listing all appearances, it may not matter as much if it takes awhile to "get around to." -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 03:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Avant Garde Grouch
Hey, in trying to research the Grungetta conundrum, I came across a 1994 print "interview" with Oscar, from his visit to a London museum opening. It has some useful info, especially re his relationship with Grungetta, which I'll get around to adding later. But in the mean time, I wanted to share this priceless quote from Oscar, which closes the article: "I like to see seven-month-old babies eating alone in restaurants, quietly enjoying gazpacho." -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 00:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That's awesome. And I didn't even know what gazpacho was until I just looked it up. —Scott ( talk ) 00:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Joshua Bell
Hey, are you sure Bell appeared in "Sing"? I can't find a mention of it, and the image on the page appears to be from the celeb version of "Dance Myself to Sleep," which Bell was in. -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 20:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You're right -- good catch! —Scott ( talk ) 20:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm So Happy
So I accidentally found an ASCAP entry for what I believe is this song:  #390373934. The Henson database lists just Wade & Engel as the authors and I'm pleased to finally get their full names (both Brian oddly); but this entry also has a third writer (Smith). Also the title is given as "I Am So Happy" in ASCAP. Since the characters quite obviously sing "I'm so..." I find myself disinclined to rename it. I'm not quite so sure about the author situation; it's possible the "Smith" version is a later variant on it or ASCAP messed up or Henson messed up. What do you think? I still can't find any outside info on this one that might shed light on the matter. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess working so intensively on getting our facts right results in some happy accidents once in a while :) I think you're right about the name of our article. I've never heard the original song, but it's clear that the Muppets chose to sing it the way we have it titled. As for the Smith name, we can probably throw it in there. The Henson database wasn't always all-inclusive for stuff like that. —Scott ( talk ) 02:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Shake Your head
Hey Scott -- good to have you back. Could you look at a question over on Talk: Shake Your Head One Time?? The title fits the skit perfectly, but you had it as something else, and the dates are a bit wonky. It's about to pass out of active status but I wanted your imput, if any. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Wendy. I just dropped my 2¢. —Scott ( talk ) 19:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

New Season
Hey, I take it you caught the new episode (my computer shut down in the middle, so I lost the opening and first few segments, only have the last half). When you geta chance, could you add an appropriate image to Tina Fey? The current one has aklways looked incredibly awkward to me. -- 17:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. In case you didn't notice, in the library scene, at one point Fey stands in front of a shelf which incluces The Cat in the Hat (which makes for two Seuss references in one episode; I'm adding Scram-I-Am right now). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'm all geared-up for the new season :) —Scott ( talk ) 17:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I enjoyed it, though the new heavy reading emphasis, which I approve, gave off such an Electric Company-vibe that I expected Rita Moreno to show up. Also, the new "hip" theme arrangement will take some getting used to. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, re Tina Fey. I know we've discussed this with cast members, and I've given in on that, but with celebrities, why not have a Muppet relevant image if we have it? Even if you created a page for Bookaneer Captain, I think it helps to showcase the celeb's Muppet connection visually right off. Is there another image from the episode we could use, if that one bothers you? (That said, I like the image you added much better than Brad's, which was too small and looked horrible without frames). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm... if we could get a screenshot from her Conan appearance, that might work. Unless someone has a set photo. —Scott ( talk ) 19:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be nice. But until then, what's so wrong with having an image from her appearance on the show? I understand your desire to use non-Sesame publicity shots for cast members and so on, when their outside appearances are few and far between and its useful to see them out of character. But I don't get the point of applying it to a celebrity, again, even if you have a seperate page for the Bookaneer character (in which case, variously, why not swap images? The one currently there is not from the episode itself, but to promote the appearance). We're all about showing the Muppet relevance of these people, and that's weakened if a generic picture is used; often its unavoidable, when we have no access to the appearance, or the involvement is off-screen (voice-over, etc.) But in this case, why not show Tina Fey with Elmo, even if she is dressed in character? -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

status: away
I'll be away until Sunday, August 12. Any messages left here will be answered then. —Scott ( talk ) 01:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I miss you. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's not the same without you and all the stuff you do! I was hanging out with Danny last week, and too bad we couldn't have met up with you while I was there! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Another Nice Mess
At last, I found a Laurel and Hardy reference, a nice Joe Mathieu caricature. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sweet! I have that book, but I haven't looked at it in quite a while. —Scott ( talk ) 20:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)