User talk:Merrystar

pictures to santa
hi, i have some new (well) pictures of letters to santa, but can't get them into the gallery. (on the article.) could you tell me how. thaNks. --Muppetstudios 14:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For a gallery you don't use square brackets or "thumb" or the pixel size. Follow how the other pictures are done on the page, but you basically want a line that says:
 * Image:Mynewimage.jpg|my new image caption

If you are using the "New! Add Images" tool you will have to put the image in and then go take out all of the extra markup.... or just add them in and one of us can fix it. -- Wendy (talk ) 14:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Record questions
Hi, Wendy! Do you remember where you saw the Australian Rubber Duckie that didn't list a B-side, and also the German Rubber Duckie that didn't list a catalog number? Thanks! -- Ken (talk ) 06:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Ken -- Australian and German. The former is actually a New Zealand auction; for some reason I thought I had seen it in a couple of places, but I can only find one right now; I suppose it could be a seller mixup on the number, but added it until we could prove it one way or another.   I think the German one probably has the same number as the BlitzInformation single.  On the websites for other artists there was usually both a normal "picture" cover and the blitz cover with the same number.  But I don't have any actual evidence for it being the case here, so I didn't add it in.  -- Wendy  (talk ) 20:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if the other Rubber Duckies are anything like ours, then they probably changed B-sides and catalog numbers, too. I'll see what else I can find out.  Thanks! -- Ken  (talk ) 02:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Found another listing finally -- here. It gives the B-side as SS Theme, and claims the origin is actually New Zealand... which would account for the number difference.... -- Wendy  (talk ) 13:38, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

templates
Hi merrystar. this is muppetstudios from the goon show wiki. I've been needing to change a couple of pages and i wanted to delete some( because they had mistakes in the title). Everything is fine except i was woundering if you could give me a template for UP FOR DELETION. Style. Like the one they have on this wiki. Thanks. --Muppetstudios 19:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi -- you can copy any template you like from one wiki to another. Just "Edit" the page to see the source on the one you like, copy it, and paste it into the page on the second wiki.  -- Wendy  (talk ) 19:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Tea for Two
Hey, Wendy! When you get a chance, take a look at Talk:Muppet tea set. A cite tag was added for the claim that Michael K. Frith designed the set, and looking through the complex deletion logs, it seems you added it back in October 2006. It may be hard to remember by now, but we know you never add info without a source, so if you're able to dig back and figure out where it came from, it would help. Thanks! -- Andrew Leal (talk ) 20:56, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. -- Wendy  (talk ) 22:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

One more thing
Can you please grab the Japanese SS1? I made a place for it. (I also wrote something a little further down on this page.) Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Lots of merchandise
Hi Wendy I have lots of pictures and merchandise from holland Germany and spain but I cant get it online alone. Can you help me with the catalogisation? Also on Youtube a guy named Clausule has tons of Sesamstraat fragments that could be helpfull for screencaps for sketches! (Pino 22:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC))
 * Hey Paul -- I'd be happy to help get stuff organized on here. Just let me know where it is :).  It's great to see the non-English part of the wiki growing like mad :).  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

And it keeps raining...
Hi! I'll try to be short, because I don't want to break your page. I forgot about the French disco 45, so I moved that over, along with some data about an Australian Bob 45. Also, I ran across something else tonight. Remember when you found that 45 from the Havin' Fun album, and the number was off? Well, I just found another one, so now I'm thinking that at some point between 1973 and 1976, they renumbered them when they switched from Columbia to CRA. I'm assembling the raw data on my page, until we can find some more evidence. I'm starting to put every Columbia song title from the first 6 LP's into Gemm, and it's already paying off! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay! I found some more Rubber Duckies.... one of them I'm guessing on the country as Australia; the seller was from New Zealand.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, this is getting even better. Guess what I did last night?  I just started typing "sesame record" into Google Images, and after a few pages ran into somebody on Flickr who's got a ton of scans of kid records, including a bunch of Australian LP's!  I almost had a heart attack!  The covers are kind of thrashed, but for me the "holy grail" is that this person scanned all front and back covers, meaning there's a bunch of Australian numbers!  Also, this is going to clear up the Axis and Summit problem, because apparently some LP's were issued twice, and also, on top of everything else, this person even had a Japanese edition of the Columbia SS1, with Japanese text inside the book!  I think I had the best haul last night that I ever had!  If you want to look around for yourself, I'll give you the link when I find it again.  It's going to take a few days to process everything.  By the way, I'm not sure of the ethics of taking stuff from Flickr, because I thought it was a personal photo site.  Anyway, I'll be having fun today, and they even got that weird album on J&B that we didn't know the tracks from!  This is great! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey cool! I'll have to see if I can find it. I think it's fine to take images from Flickr.  But if you like you could post a message for the guy asking him if he minds.   He might even be convinced to come join Muppet wiki himself, which would be cool if he's a big fan.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, the page I'm working with is here. I'm not sure how Flickr works, so could you maybe ask the person?  It might have more weight since you're an admin.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just an update. It looks like he has 9 covers, but from the back covers, there seem to be 30(!) titles that have had at least one release.  Some have come out twice.  It looks like Axis was first (their titles cover 1974-1976), and then Summit (reissues of Axis, and new ones until 1979).  It may be a coincidence, but it looks like the change happened right when our distributor and label design change happened.  But there are some titles that seem to have only come out on Axis, so more information will be coming soon! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I found it!
Thanks to the Muppet Wiki Law of Unintended Consequences, I found that there are 2 label variations on the "Hall of Fame" Rubber Duckie! I made a place for it. (I also finally figured out the years, too!) -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay! Isn't it amazing how we keep finding more and more stuff?  I'll keep an eye out (I'd stopped looking at the Hall of Fame listings) to see if we can find an image.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and I don't know why I never thought to look for foreign copies of Rubber Duckie before! So far I've found evidence for copies in England, Germany, Australia, and Canada.  I wanted to bring up something related to what you wrote on my page.  I think the time has come to create an International Sesame Street singles page.  I think we should save a Sesamstrasse singles page for any future singles that are German recordings.  I think the non-US releases of US recordings should be called International SS, and that would match what we have on the International Muppet Singles page (also foreign releases of US recordings).  Oh yeah, that means we can also bring over the Susan Australian 45 and EP!  Boy, we've already got about 8 things to make a page with!  So what do you think? -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. I only did it as Sesamstrasse 'cause I couldn't remember what we'd done with the others.  There are French ones and stuff for example with their own pages.  I think a big International page would be way better.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Voilà, mon ami! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice! Now I really do have to look at Rubber Duckie singles again!  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 18:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Can you please delete A.B.C. Song and Other Selections from Sesame Street and Sesamstrasse Singles (the redirect page)?  I brought everything over.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Translations of Book and Record Sets
I'm having trouble deciding something, and I want to see what you think. It looks like Bert en de gebroken theepot is a stand-alone book, and a book and record set. On the US stuff, we don't have separate pages for a book and record version of a previously released book. To complicate things, this exists as a US book, a US audio, a Dutch book, and a Dutch audio. I don't want to erase the page, because Paul has some good credits and other information. But can you think of a good way to organize things that we're now seeing 4 versions of? -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * hmm. I added it in as a "translation" on the english page, but it's clearly not going to keep all the information about the cast and whatnot.  I'm not sure what to say.  We don't even have that much info about the credits on the english book&audio sets.  There's no real way to combine it onto one page with the English one that I can see.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, most of the Golden book and audio sets based on pre-existing books don't include credits of any kind. I picked up two recently, though one is sadly garbled, and neither have credits; only the "Learn About Music" series, created as book and tape sets to begin with, include cast lists (as do the Muppet Show-themed sets released on Henson's own label). When a separate audio adaptation is prepared and we have substantial information (as in this case), I'd say it warrants its own page, same as we do with the albums; the closest parallel would be the French Muppet Show albums, where even though the songs are mostly the same, the translation and adaptation and so on is different and it would be too cluttered to fit it all on one page. So a "see also" is appropriate (and probably some clean-up on both pages). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, the reason I was wondering is because the Dutch book and record sets also exist on CD compilations where they put 6 of them together, which is something we don't have with the US stuff. So if you're okay with separate pages, I'll keep them like this, and maybe Paul can help with expanding other ones.  I know we'll have at least 12 of them someday. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The compilations are a separate issue, really. Looking at them, the images seem to be repeated on those, so if there's a way to merge info without adding confusion (specifying which stories/tracks the voices belong to when known), that would make sense (and a note on the isolated releases). I was just looking at the example you mentioned. -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry, I'm kind of bouncing around all of these. I've been immersed in these for so long, that I might not be making sense, and I'm still trying to figure out the international audio, which doesn't always line up with the US stuff.  I wanted to cross-reference the tapes to the CD sets, which is why I wanted to make sure it was okay to have separate pages.  Right now I'm adding a bunch of new Sesamstrasse CD's, but I'll get back to the audio sets soon. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It might be worth making one page for the compilations, which lists each one and links to the individual book pages.... just one thought on organizing it. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there are only 2: Ernie Heeft Rommel Gemaakt and Grover Gaat Naar School. The reason I wasn't sure about having separate pages for the audio versions is because then what do we link to on the CD's page, English, Dutch, or both?  Right now, we link to the English title, which includes the note about there being a record.  I think I'm starting to figure this out as I talk about it.  We should probably use the CD pages for complete voices, just like we always do.  We can still have a discography of the audio sets, like we do for the US stuff.  The only extra thing we're dealing with is the Dutch CD's which collect 6 stories each, and we don't have American versions of those.  Sorry if I'm beating this to death.  I should probably finish my German CD's, and then I can concentrate on the other stuff. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:01, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

How's your German?
I found a German site that has a lot of information on the Sesamstrasse CD's. They've got catalog numbers, song titles, and sometimes even composer credits! So I'm bringing some rough data over to the albums that don't have pages yet. I'm just mentioning it to you in case you happen to see some rough pages. I'm going to bring everything over, and then clean it up, but it's probably going to take a few days. So if you're looking for something fun to do, like playing Try to Figure Out the Song Title, there should be about 20 new pages pretty soon! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hola!
(I don't know how to say Hello in Dutch.) I just wanted to tell you that if you're interested, Weton-Wesgram has a cool downloadable catalog you can look through, and there are tons of Sesamstraat CD's and DVD's in there. I'm just barely starting to cross-reference CD's with Worldcat, and other record sites, but I just thought I'd mention it, because I want to put Sesamstraat DVD's on here, too!

Oh yeah, the link is on the WSP page. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I suppose formally it's "Hallo". "Hoi!" would work better, although it's more like saying "Hi!"....  Anyhow, that's a really frustrating website!  The catalog is cool though.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't know why they have a Sun Records catalog in their kids' section. I finally had to put Sesamstraat in the search box, and that brought up the catalog.  I'm glad you found it!  Thanks for your help with the new pages I just made!


 * Oh yeah, somebody put up At Home with Ernie and Bert on YouTube in 14 pieces, taken from an 8-track! (And you can see the bottom of the cover in the video.  Here's a sample clip.)  I think that's the most unusual way I've been able to prove that something exists since I've been here! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi!
How are you managing to figure out the song titles? All this time I had thought Neuzenlied was an original song. I wonder why they didn't call it Big Round Nose in Dutch? Well, anyway, I was at Barnes & Noble today, but I forgot to look for Dutch and German dictionaries. (Sometimes I don't trust Babelfish.) So I guess right now I'm just reformatting things, and putting in catalog numbers where I know them. Good to see you wandering around the records with me! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Did I ever mention that I speak dutch? And also have a memory for songs that I've ever edited, like "Fixin' My Hair" (the Dutch said nothing about "Frizzin" -- it more literally talked about running a comb through my hair).    But in the cast of Neuzenlied, it said the album was American material dubbed to Dutch.  And that Big Round Nose song immediately started playing my head.  I confess it's a guess without hearing it though, so if you want to take it out I'll understand.  I just figured there weren't likely to be 2 album-worthy early American nose songs.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, on that Neuzenlied album, the only song with no American equivalent is Side 1, #6, "Tellen tot Vijf" which literally means "Count to 5" and is translated as "1 to 5".... The only song I can think of is "1-2-3-4-5!" but it seems a strange choice... Just a note.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you never told me you spoke Dutch! That's fantastic!  I've been afraid to really dig into the Dutch stuff, so I never really touched it before.  But I decided that this was a good time to get into it.  That's why I was asking all of those data entry questions, because these were laid out so differently.  But now I'm making them match the US stuff, and now I'm really getting into it!  Oh, and I'll trust your judgment on the translations, since we have Paul and Jog in case we need to double-check recordings or other material.  I wish I could do more with Plaza Sesamo, but all we have is the one LP, and Andrew hasn't run across anything else, so I guess that's all they've done. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. I thought you might like to see what we're working on.  Here's one. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Something to brighten your day
Things have been quiet with the American records, so I've been diving into German and Dutch stuff. So here are Philips Records, Poly, and Europa for your viewing pleasure! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey cool! Who took over from Philips in the Netherlands?  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WSP. It's huge, and it took me an hour to copy the discography page over to WSP, and then convert it to the gallery format, and then erase what I didn't need.  I figured that would be faster than going to each album's page and copying the data one by one.  There are over 80 albums on their page!  Plus, a lot of the early albums are still in print on CD!  They're doing better than we are!


 * Well, as you can see, I've decided to jump into the Strasse/Straat albums. I was kind of intimidated by them, because of the language barrier, but I'm so intrigued by them, that I'm going to get some dictionaries, and work my way through the pages, so I can see which songs are translations, and which ones aren't.  By the way, I found a site called discogs.com, and they not only have front and back covers of some of these, but they have the label pictures, too!  It's almost like being in Paul's house, except that I can't play them!  Anyway, can you delete Weton-Wesgram?  They're not really a label; they've been the distributor since about 1985, but the actual label logo is WSP.  It's kind of like the Dutch version of the CRA/Distinguished situation on our records.  I also built these pages so when I mess around on ebay.de and ebay.nl, I'll have a shortcut to go to when I find data on cassette and CD numbers!  Plus there's Worldcat, and the official company sites, and all kinds of other things that I just discovered!  So eventually, I hope to make the German and Dutch records as detailed as ours, since they're the next 2 largest groups of recordings. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Notes from Down Under
Sometimes I find the weirdest things by just messing around. I was on a discography site looking for something else, and I ran across Australian versions of Bob's Affinity 45 and one of Susan's Scepter 45's. I didn't feel right putting them on the huge singles page, because those are kind of consecutive runs of the American stuff, so I just worked them into the text on the albums' pages. By the way, if you ever go to foreign eBay sites, they have a ton of Australian Sesame LP's on Summit, and pictures of the tapes for Dutch and German stuff. I didn't know if you ever messed around over there. I feel like buying a late Summit LP just to get the numbering on the back (assuming they have numbering on the back like ours do). I'm also working on numerical list of the Dutch and German stuff just for my own notes. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool! I don't usually go to the foreign ebays, but I always search "Worldwide" which in theory should pull the same stuff... but probably doesn't :).  I'll have to try it when I get a chance.  Maybe we should just make a whole Australian discography.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the Australian Sesame LP's are more like the UK pressings of Muppet LP's from 1977 to 1984. They have the same cover and contents, but a different label.  I was just going to use what we find, and put it in the "Other releases" gallery.  Also, I just remembered that we do have that Canadian only 45 from Born to Add in the singles chart, so I might rethink putting any simultaneous international pressings of 45's there too, especially if we find a picture. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. There seem to be 2 Australian labels: Summit and Axis. I'm not sure how or if they're related.  It could be a mirror image of our CRA/Distinguished situation, or  one label could have bought the other.  More as I find out. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Welcome
Hey there, thanks for the welcome! :-) Not sure why, but it seems everyone from Muppet Wiki starts new section on the top of talk pages, rather than the bottom like I'm used to. Again, thanks for the welcome. -- <font color="black" face="Times New Roman">RyanCross (<font color="black" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 04:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Even worse, we answer on the same page, rather than having conversations split up on two talk pages! :) Let me know if you have any questions about how things work...  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

7 Wonderful Singles!
Hi! I'm happy that you found Goldilocks! Now we only have 7 singles left, which is technically 6, since I have Jack and the Beanstalk, which I'll put up as soon as I can figure out how to do that! If you find it on your own, go ahead and put it up, in case it's better than mine. I noticed that most of the ones left are later numbers, which makes sense because those were made for a shorter time. But we're getting there! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Initials Spacing
Hey, Wendy! When you get a chance, take a look at the current events discussion about spacing in initials, as a way to be consistent about page names (and prevent the kind of back and forthing which has happened in the past). -- <font color="Blue">Andrew Leal (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

A Record from Indiana
Hi! I'm really excited, because I found A Boy from Indiana on the new Sesamestreet.org site! I'm happy because this is one of the songs that doesn't exist on an album, and I've never seen or heard it before! Here is the clip. I'm sending you the clip because the only weird thing is that I can't find out who wrote it. I checked ASCAP and BMI, but I couldn't find anything. I might even e-mail Bob, because I really love the song. So if you happen to find out anything, that would be great! By the way, thanks for finding the picture sleeve! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey -- sorry I didn't answer this. I did some digging on Boy from Indiana and couldn't pull anything up.  There was a movie by that name in 1950; apparently the music in it was uncredited.  Perhaps that's the source?  Anyhow, asking Bob or buying the album (the single is on ebay right now) may be the only way to find out.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you, thank you, thank you for letting me know! It was Buy it Now, it's sealed, and the guy actually has more than one copy, so I went ahead and bought one!  I'll let you know when I get it! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help -- I'm curious now about it too :). -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Mystery solved! It was Carol Hall and Sam Pottle.  The only thing is I can't tell if each wrote music and lyrics, or if they wrote it together, so I put both names on top.  If I can find the exact crediting, I'll fix it. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. The record has the same backing track, but it's a different vocal take. I wonder which came first.  I'm assuming the video version came first, because the record has a (C) 1975 for songwriting, but a (P) 1977 for the recording.  But it's cool to hear it in stereo. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool! It's nice to see more Sam Pottle music always :) With those two it's possible that they worked on both the lyrics & music together.... so if the record didn't specify, then yeah, they both go up top as writers.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Look what I found on Amazon!
This is one of those songbook and tape sets I was telling you about a long time ago! MPI was somehow related to Sight & Sound, so there's our first proof of that series of items! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Very Cool! I grabbed the image for whenever we make a page :).  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't we just stick it on the album's page? It's basically a book and tape set.  The only thing I don't know is, because it says "song sheets", that might mean it includes multiple copies, like for schools.  What do you think? -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, messing around on sheetmusicplus.com, I found something else. I found a book of classical piano pieces, arranged by Joe Raposo!  And the weird thing is that the actual copyright on the page was "(C) 1987 Sight & Sound Music Software, Inc."!  So they were somehow involved with sheet music, too!  Someday we're going to figure all of this out! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Sheet music
Hi! I love the stuff you've been adding! You found the last picture sleeve for the Havin' Fun 45's! That's so cool! Anyway, I'm going to make the sheet music category a little more consistent before I add some other titles that I know about. Let me know what you think. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Help! It won't let me move Labyrinth Music Book to Labyrinth (sheet music book). It's telling me,

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Can you try to move it? Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Ken -- I moved it. But will you tell Danny or Scott about this limit?  They should know if they don't.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think something's weird with the page. I've never seen that before in a year and a half, and I've been moving a lot of stuff around very quickly on other page titles.  A long time ago, some other Labyrinth stuff I was working on wasn't working right, either.  Do you think we should erase and recreate the page?  I'll tell Scott what I saw. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it's very plausible that they actually put in a limit on the number of moves you can make; I just want Scott/Danny to know. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I told Scott, and he didn't know what it was either. And I moved other pages in quick succession, but it just didn't like the Labyrinth page.  Oh well. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate EP
Hi, Wendy! Can you pick whichever copy of the Peter Pan EP you think is better, and then erase the duplicate? Thanks!

Oh, and I hope my response to Danny didn't sound like I was complaining about the knockoffs and covers. I think we're both thinking pretty much the same. I just wanted to see what Danny thought, and I forgot where you and I had talked about it before. Thanks again! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

For future reference
I found song listings for the SS1 and SS2 songbooks (the ones with that weird cover that's on all of them) and there may be more editions, since SS1 has all the songs, but SS2 only has highlights. Anyway, I noticed that we're calling sheet music versions of albums different things. I didn't want to start moving things and make a bigger mess, since there are some title redirects in there too, and I want to think about it first. I just wanted to mention it for whenever you go through that section and see what I'm talking about. Thanks!

By the way, thanks to you, I was able to clear up some wrong numbers on the Camping in Canada LP! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, did you turn off your e-mail? -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops... yeah. sorry about that. I'll turn it back on.  But I'm horrible at answering my email :).  I had seen an SS2 songbook the other day but there was no song listing and the picture was marginal... same crazy picture in yellow.  oh well.  I think the sheet music is a bit unstandardized because it's been added sort of haphazardly.   I'm glad the Camping in Canada cassette helped :).   -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's funny how one thing leads to another. Now I'm turning my attention to the Muppet Babies LP's.  I'm starting to think that the Parker Brothers version of Rocket to the Stars is the first version.  After looking all over Worldcat and other places (and I even found evidence for UK and Australian versions too!), everything has the later catalog number, even the ones that were dated 1985.  The short version is that I think Columbia only put out those 4 yellow LP's in 1987, based on their numbers (which are all consecutive), and most of them were reissues of other stuff, like the IJE Fraggle Rock LP's.  So I'm thinking that they're taking the 1985 as the original copyright, like when the Muppet Movie CD is 1979, 1993.  But of course, I'd love it if we found another Columbia edition! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow!
Gosh, I can't even keep up with all the stuff you've added today! I may pop back on here later with comments or questions, once I go through them! For now, I thought you might like a copy of the final 10 SS label 45 sleeves we need, although I think you just found some of them.


 * CTW 99008 C Cookie/Baked a Cake
 * CTW 99034 5 People/People Neighborhood
 * CTW 99044 Good Bad/Sing Me Your Song
 * CTW 99057 Sir Duke/Muskrat Love
 * CTW 99059 Goldi 3 Bears 1/2
 * CTW 99060 Beanstalk 1/2
 * CTW 99065 One Me/Make Two
 * CTW 99069 True Blue/Keep Christmas
 * CTW 99073 Helen Reddy Sings (Wonder Child/I Make Up Songs)
 * CTW 99075 Disco Frog/Bein' Green (disco version)

More later! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup -- I found a (not very great) scan for 5 People/People Neighborhood. So that leaves 9 :).  I can usually spot ones we're missing when they show up 'cause I think "I've never seen that before!".  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * And I have the Jack and the Beanstalk 45, so whenever I figure out how to put it up, I will. By the way, I answered your other question back on my page. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Upload Help
Hi! I was wondering, how do I upload images correctly? I've been following the same process as given on the FAQ page, but everytime I click the "Upload" button, nothing happens. I've been very patient to see if it takes a while for the image to come up, but nothing reallly happens. Is something wrong for that to not work?

LiveOnStage 21:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. I'm not sure why you're having trouble with uploads, aside from the site being a trifle slow today.  Are you uploading a picture from your laptop, using Special:Upload??  You can't upload from another website directly...  If that isn't working you can try the "New! Add Images" button in the edit window instead.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

More stuff
Hi, Wendy! Nice 8-tracks. Also, I've decided to take the plunge and figure out the Peter Pan 45's and LP's that I've never really paid attention to before. There's a whole bunch of them on eBay right now, and I think there are cover variations as well. It looks like there's a Vol. 3 with songs from SS2, so that's another one we can track if you want to. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and for the sake of completeness, I finally made a page for Songs from Sesame Street 2, which was the second Disneyland cover album. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yay! I've been wanting a page for that Disney album for awhile but could never find both a good picture and a track listing at the same time so I never put it up myself. :) -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:51, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, you should have said something! I have one, but it's thrashed, and I can't scan stuff anyway.  There's a few on eBay right now, but I don't know how good they are.  Have you seen all the blogs about kid music?  There are tons of interesting (and sometimes really strange) stuff on those sites! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * One more thought. There's also a documentary LP called "The Age of Television", and during one segment about kids' shows, the hosts talk about Sesame Street and there's an audio clip from "Today's Secret Drawing-Astronaut".  Where would something like that go? -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If it's an audio clip, then I'd put it in album appearances. How odd to use Today's Secret Drawing on an LP.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it was kind an unusual audio montage, where they'd go from the skit's soundtrack to clips from the moon landing, and back and forth. Summer and fall 1969 was a pretty neat time for pop culture: The moon, Woodstock, Sesame Street and me!


 * Hey, good haul tonight! I used to really not like the Disneyland albums, but now that I'm older (and know who a lot of the voice talent were), they're kind of growing on me.  And Angus told me that there was more stuff on Summit!  I hope we can find them! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

User time code
Hey Wendy! How do you get the time code at the end of the talk pages (example: User name (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2008). Does it depend on how long you have been on the wiki for the day? - User:Ernie and Bert fan { talk ) 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. The timecode in the date is the time of day in 24hr time and UTC indexing.  I'm not entirely sure why you are getting only the date and not the timestamp in your signature though.  You might look through your preferences (there's a section for date and time).  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Book and tapes
Hi, Wendy! Can you look at the various versions of Ernie Gets Lost? Kyle replaced the book with the same cover, but I think one was a paperback, and one was a hardcover. Should we put up both, or do you think that's redundant? Also, I'm not sure if Kyle's copy is a Golden book alone, or a Golden book and tape. Do you know if there are any differences in Golden audio and non-audio versions? I guess if there's text about reading along in the book, but the cover is the same, we can't tell from just the cover. I hope that made sense. I'm going to talk to Kyle some more about his book and tape sets. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My son has a few of these "Growing Up" books as hardbacks and one as a softback; I don't think we need separate images for them as they are substantially the same thing.... Although interestingly the hardbacks were numbered (and the sequence number is in the ISBN) and have a list of the series on the back.  The softback is a different ISBN sequence and no list on the back....  I'm not sure I've ever seen one I know is an audio version. None of my son's appear to be read-alongs. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey guys. Sorry if i'm confusing anyone but the cover that was up didn't have the "Sesame Street: Growing Up Series wasn't on the one that was up. So i figured since it didn't have that certain sign on it i figured the the one that was up was a Cassette verison. Sorry if i still haven't got back to you Ken but i'm still looking around for all my Tape and Books. But i'll get back to soon about that. Talk to ya'll later. -- <font color="Blue">Kyle (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 12:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Kyle -- that's brilliant! I think you're right. I checked the softcover my son has and it does have the "Growing Up" slogan on it.  So that must be the difference!  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey Wendy
I've been having trouble about getting pictures uploaded. It shows in the bottom left hand corner of my computer shows that there is an error when i try to do so. I've asked Scott but i think he's out for a while. So i asked Ken and told me you might be able to help me. So if you can or can't that's fine. -- <font color="Blue">Kyle (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure Kyle. I'll try to help.  Are you using the "New! Add Images" tool? or Special:Upload?  Can you try Special:Upload (if you aren't) and tell me what, if any, error messages it gives?  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 17:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wendy! You helped alot. I'll start using the Speical: Upload other then the other one. Thanks again dudet. -- <font color="Blue">Kyle (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

What Time Is It?
It's time to say thank you for the new tape! That's cool to just plug it into the box that's already there for it! Oh yeah, Disneyland does have the Star Wars set, but it's in a slightly different box. I'll mention it on the page. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was happy to find that tape. Never thought tapes would make me so happy in fact.... odd that.  I'm glad those figures are available at more than one theme park -- that's what the original info I found said.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

The back of Clink Clank
Hi! I figured you'd be interested to know that I joined bsnpubs.com, which is that huge site of record listings I've told you about. Anyway, I joined their forum, and, trying to think of things to talk about, I asked about Clink, Clank, since we had the Columbia pop edition's number, but no B-side. Well, the next morning, one of the other members looked it up in his database of Columbia singles (yes, people write reference books of nothing but 45's in numerical order), and they told me it was Put It Away! I was so happy, I couldn't wait to get home and update all of the related pages! Now all we need is to find a copy! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool! That sounds like it'll be a nice resource to have actually.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, my next question was about Tick-Tock Sick, so we'll see what happens. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I just realized this would be the perfect time to figure out those other ECC 45's! I'll have to go slowly though; I don't want to dump a lot of questions on them at once! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

May the Frog be with you
Hey, where did you find out about the Star Wars figures? Those are cool! If you or your family want one, I can pick one up the next time I go to Disneyland! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Ken -- I just realized I never answered you! Sorry about that.  I found a reference to the figurines in a "cool toys" type blog and then looked 'em up on ebay.  I see that Scott added that they're at Disney World (the thing I read said "theme parks") so that's more limited.  But thanks for the offer!  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, they sell a lot of stuff in both places, so I'll have to check the next time I go! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion request
Thanks! I was going to ask you to delete that weird page, and I see you already did.

I'm almost done with making complete galleries out of everything we have. Things are looking great, and more organized!

P.S. Thanks for the disco tape, and I want that record player and the Ernie and Bert lamp! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome on the deletion. I have a feeling there was something real if fan-based somewhere in there, but .  I thought you'd like the disco tape.  I'm always happy when I find the CTW ones -- and that was a nice pic of that one.  I want that record player too though, and I have no records for it! -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that page linked to a YouTube video making fun of Sesame Street and the movie "Do the Right Thing", with somebody's Fisher Price figures and dubbed audio. I watched a little bit of it, but the language was over the line.  I'm all for parody, but I don't like when people think having Muppets spout the f-word at each other is funny.


 * And that record player reminds me of the Close 'n Play, which looked like a regular kid's record player in a case with a handle, but the needle was in the lid. I never understood what the point of that was, since you couldn't read the label with the lid closed!  Here's a commercial. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Irwin et al.
Hey, I didn't feel like digging through the archives, but did we ever talk about the stuff like the Irwin album? I'm wondering if you think we should document every children's cover album there is. Part of me wants to, but then again, it could mean adding a whole bunch of stuff that really isn't Muppet-related, although it does show how much Sesame songs permeated US pop culture back then, just like the Disney catalog did and still does. How do you feel about it? -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I sort of feel like the Album Appearances gives a nice place for them to go and they are in their own way interesting. And they're related to songs written specifically for Sesame Street and I sort of feel like that's somewhat integral to the Muppets but maybe that's just me.  Anyhow, Irwin amused me a) because I remember Irwin Duck and b) because that's an awfully late cover album and c) it's an entire album of purely SS songs....  If you want to put the matter up for general consensus I'll abide by it, but I'm for adding them.  We could, possibly make a "Minor Album Appearances" page for albums with only one song (or some similar criteria) which would certainly help cut down on numbers and be consistent with the other appearances/references/mentions categories.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I like having them here, and I like Irwin. I have one of his other cover albums (mostly disco hits circa 1979).  I guess I'm wondering where "Album Appearances" stops.  Do we want to include every singer who ever did "Green" or "Sing", or is it going to mostly involve children's records?  Your idea about having multiple categories for non-canonical albums seems like a good one to me.  I never liked having stuff like the Ronald McDonald album thrown in with a sampler with one song on it and stuff like that.  No hurry on this, though.  I'm in the middle of some other stuff.  I've just been noticing the cover albums you've been adding, and I think we've almost got all the ones that I remember from the '70's, so maybe it won't wind up being that many.  I'll go through them later and see if I can figure out some way to separate the entire albums from stuff with one song on it.  Sorry if it sounds like I'm complaining about this category.  I do think that there's a place for the cover stuff; I'm just trying to figure out where!


 * P.S. When I first came here, I wanted to make a full page for the Electric Company album, based on its appearing on Sesame Street Records.  The guys didn't want me to, so I didn't, but I still think I'm right! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Fast question
Do you have any version of the Follow That Bird soundtrack? I've found a bunch of raw data and it's on Talk: Follow That Bird (soundtrack), but I'm kind of stuck. Thanks for your help! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 20:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Ken -- sadly I don't have a copy of that one. Sorry.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll keep asking around. I haven't talked to Kyle or Rich in a while, and they might know something. -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Gallery holes
Hi, Wendy! I hope you had a happy 4th! Thanks for the pictures you've been finding. I've been thinking about something. Do you think it's better to have lists of other releases that we don't have pictures for, above the gallery, or should we make a place in the gallery for everything, even though some pictures will say "Image not available"? I'm getting confused by stuff that's been out multiple times and/or in multiple countries, and I'm trying to organize galleries by US record/tape/8-track, then other countries' simultaneous releases, and then US reissues years later, and then non-US reissues. Let me know what you think. Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I think I figured out why they've never used the first edition cover on any of the Christmas album reissues. I think it's because, since they never use the back half of the picture, it looks weird to have half of Animal's face cut off on the front cover. The other picture has a cleaner break. That's just my theory anyway. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Ken -- thanks! A belated happy 4th to you too! I like having everything in the gallery, even with the "Image not Available" stuff, rather than in both a list and a gallery.  It just seems neater somehow.  In general I think you've done a good job reorganizing all the extra release info into something sensible :).  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 23:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought too, but I wanted to see what you thought. I think it makes it easier for people to see what's missing, even if they're not familiar with things like formats and catalog numbers.  Plus I'm hoping we'll have more people join from other countries.  I know there's got to be more stuff from other countries where The Muppet Show aired, but we don't know about it yet! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Caroll Spinney interview
Hi! I noticed that Kermit Love's death made the front page of Yahoo for a little while the other day and I noticed that in the corner of the article, there was a video clip about Caroll Spinney. I don't know if we can use anything from it, or if we can link to it (I'm not sure how long Yahoo/AP clips stay active), but I thought it was a really neat interview, with some great shots of the street set with the lights and cameras and everything. So I just wanted to point that out to you. Do you think we can use anything from it? Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:14, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

They took the video clip off off Kermit Love's page, but they put it over here. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Ken -- I'd say we can link it, as long as it stays in one spot now. But ask Danny or Scott or somebody 'cause I have trouble keeping track of the rules on such stuff.  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Chinese Fever
Hi, Wendy! Where in the world did you find a listing for a Chinese edition of the SS Fever LP? Wow, it looks like everybody got that record! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ebay as usual... I just put up the pic, which is at a regrettable angle, but at least not fuzzy.  Unfortunately they didn't give the album number...  -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Was China showing Sesame Street then? I guess even if they didn't know the characters or songs, at least they could dance to it!  Anyway, now that we know this much, I'm sure we'll find out more!  I can almost read the catalog number, but I don't want to guess, so I'll put that in my notes.  Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Ken  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 14:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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