User talk:ErnieBert

Would You Like to Buy an O?
Hey Ken, I just figured I'd let you know: By album version, I'd meant the extra dialogue that was included from Ernie before the song starts that wasn't shown on the broadcast version. That's why I undid your edit. Sorry for the inconvinience. Wattamack4 02:50, March 3, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Well, on the original Muppet Alphabet Album LP, Ernie saying, "I wonder what letter comes next?" is the last thing you hear on Side 1. Side 2 starts with the music, just like the TV version.  In fact, I think the song was an album track first, and later lip-synched, but I'm not 100% sure.  But going by the way the record originally came out, I would say the TV version is the same exact track as the album version.  If you have a CD of Sing the Alphabet, I can see why you might think he was talking before the song started, but it's actually spliced together when they released the CD.  I hope this made sense! -- Ken  (talk ) 03:10, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

E-mail
Howdy Ken. Apologies if I'm taking way too long to respond to your e-mail. My computer and I have both been infected with a virus, so it hasn't necessarily been the best week. I promise to keep in tighter contact with you once I get my computer fixed. -- Jon (talk ) 04:42, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, no problem. I hope you feel better soon! And make sure you don't catch any more viruses from your computer! (Sorry, I couldn't resist!) -- Ken (talk ) 05:03, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * XD That's okay. It's Muppet Wiki, after all. So it's kosher to follow the bear. Thanks! -- Jon (talk ) 05:21, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * If your computer's broken, what are you doing right now? -- Ken (talk ) 05:24, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I ain't a lyin' boy. I'm actually on my parents' computer at the moment. It's a decade old "Windows Me" and, as you may have guessed, it's as slow as molasses =\ -- Jon (talk ) 05:33, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, then, I'll keep this short, and I'll look forward to hearing from you once you're back on your own machine! -- Ken (talk ) 05:43, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Another Music Format...
Have you ever heard of "KidClips"?? I hadn't. I could only find 11 songs, but I bet there are twelve. Weird. I also can't seem to confirm whether the SS cartridges are 1 minute clips like the original Disney Tunes cartridges. -- Wendy (talk ) 03:23, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, and how did I miss this? Do they still make them? I'd love to have a couple just for fun! Are they basically chips with a button to push? -- Ken (talk ) 03:26, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * They go in a specific player and then yeah, push a button. I just realized they made SS-graphic players for them also - see here. Pity about the poor picture and I haven't seen them anywhere else. As far as I can gather they were sold from 2002-2003 and then discontinued. -- Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:32, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a player on eBay right now for $45.00. I want it, but I'd rather save my money for Old School: Volume 1 (CD)! But I would like to see how they work! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:35, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah. I'm pretty curious too, but the prices are steep. I think my son is too old for the toy at this point so I don't have much excuse. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:43, February 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oops, I just wanted to mention that that wasn't a player. It was the 3 pack like the picture you have on the page. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:13, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fisher Price BR Sets
Proof that Fisher Price just used the same books as the original BR sets. Check out the back side pictures of this, this and this. They have the SSR number on the back of the book but are clearly FP sets. Sort of fun. Not quite sure why the sudden rush of well-imaged auctions though! -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:51, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cool! Maybe somebody found a long-lost unopened case of them in a warehouse somewhere. It's amazing they've been sealed for 30 years! By the way, what's the 2nd one? It's not coming up. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:09, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was "nobody cares about me!" I fixed the url. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 21:30, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's an even better one! I finally get to see the front cover, the back cover, the inside flap, both sides of the record, and some of the pages! I forgot to tell you that I think the Fisher Price ones probably used whatever books they got from the Workshop, so that means that books on both labels probably exist in both versions (with "See Hear Read" and without). I'm almost positive that the phrase was added on second editions, but I guess we'll never know for sure unless we can compare all 4 versions, inside and out! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I Love the 80's
I got a kick out of you finding a Charo connection, and I got a big kick out of the fact that My Two Dads, Doogie Howser, M.D., and Rescue 911 are now on the wiki (not to mention Mister Ed!) -- <font color="Purple">Nate (<font color="Purple" size="1">talk ) 04:21, February 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, Charo's been driving me crazy for years. (Not her personally!) It seems like she would have been a Muppet Show guest star, since she was everywhere in the '70's. But maybe people mix her up with Rita Moreno, because some skits on her episode have her talking in heavily accented English. Also, people keep saying she did the Spanish versions of Jazz Numbers, but nobody has any handy to listen to. I remember them, but I don't trust 30-year-old memories. I'd like it to be her, but I don't know for sure! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:21, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Old School CD set
Look at this! I found an article on Marketwire that says the Old School CD set will be out on March 23rd. Do we still have a page for this? :) -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:55, February 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think all we have is a mention of it on the disambiguation page. Jesse ( talk ) 02:13, February 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we did, and we will again! Can you recreate Old School: Volume 1 (CD)? It should all be there. Boy, and here I was all excited because of the first new WB title tomorrow (even if it is Elmo). I wonder why Amazon has it as November? That didn't seem right to me, because even Amazon doesn't schedule things that far ahead. Now excuse me while I go hyperventilate! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:55, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

CRA +CRA
so this is a CRA single of E&B havin' fun, with a CRA label on the record and sleeve. On the sleeve the number is a CC number under the CRA logo; on the album it's CRA. Totally bonkers. It's too fuzzy to make out but the seller gives it as 76050 which makes sense with the others we have. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:21, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I need to sit down and figure out the CC to CRA mess, but I got sidetracked with the Genius to Warner mess. I'm starting to see Genius titles in stores that I've never seen before, but with Warner stickers on the bottom of the back cover, as a transition until they sell all the old stock. I've also seen 40 Years of Sunny Days and Elmo Loves You in actual Warner boxes, but with the Genius numbering. I'm actually excited for the new Elmo one that comes out on Tuesday, since that will be the first all-new Warner title, so I can figure out what they're going to do for new ones! (I might even buy it!) -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Caroll Spinney
Yeah, he called me. We are really good friends. I wrote him a letter when I was five when I found out BB wasn't a real bird (I would constantly debate it as a child) and he has invited me to his house for picnics and the the set multiple times. He gives me all the backstage hints and secrets about guest stars and stuff, before it's even reached the public. Season 41 has movie star Ryan reynolds :)


 * Wow, so you must live in the New York area. How lucky that you've been able to go to the set. I've always wanted to do that, but I live on the other side of the country. I've always wanted to meet Jim Henson, and it's so cool that you know somebody who worked with him for so many years, which is the next best thing. Thanks for sharing! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:20, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

123 Count With Me (Video)
Hey Ken: Are you sure the dvd was released in 1999? I didn't even think they had dvds back then... Wattamack4 04:04, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Yeah, DVD's have been in the US since 1997. Once the format took off, they started reissuing VHS Sesame titles on DVD around 1999. I think around 2001, they finally started issuing new ones together on both formats, and then around 2006, they quit making VHS. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:15, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. By the way, I tried looking on Amazon about when the dvd was released, and you know what's funny? It says the vhs was released in 1999 in one section, while another, 1995. Wattamack4 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Yeah, sometimes Amazon will have multiple entries for different editions, and sometimes they'll get confused or the years might be off. The earlier one was the Sony Wonder VHS (wrong year, though), and then the DVD was 1999. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 02:58, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * So basicly, Amazon is pretty much full of assumptions, am I correct? Wattamack4 03:19, January 19, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Not always. Stuff that came out after Amazon was created is pretty accurate, because they added it right when it was new. But some things are still not accurate. For example, some Sesame Street videos have 1969 for a release date. While that's technically true for some of the material on stuff like the Old School sets, that doesn't help our purposes to figure out when the set itself came out. It always helps to use a variety of sources, and of course the best thing is to be able to look at the back of an actual copy. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:25, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. That can sound pretty confusing though, I will admit. Wattamack4 03:41, January 19, 2010 (UTC)Alex

Talk thread titles
By the way -- seeing your "Hi!" message on my talk page reminded me of something that I wanted to mention. You tend to title all of your talk page conversations "Hi!" -- which makes it hard to tell what they're actually about. When I look at My Home, I see a lot of people responding to conversations titled "Hi!", and I have to click on the pages if I want to see what the topic is. Just as an example -- on Paul's talk page, there are nine different conversations called "Hi, Paul!" or "Hey, Paul!", which makes the table of contents pretty redundant. :)

So -- when you start conversations on talk pages, would you mind using the heading to describe what the conversation is about? I'd really appreciate it -- you talk about lots of interesting things, and I want to be able to follow along! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay, I'm sorry about that. It's just that I usually jump into what I want to say in my first sentence, and saying "Dutch book and tape sets" in the heading, and then saying, "Hey, Paul, I have a question about the Dutch book and tape sets" seemed redundant to me. But if it's messing up My Home, I'll make it a little clearer. Sorry about that! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:04, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * That would be awesome. Thank you! -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:19, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

New videos?
Are these the new Warner Home Video releases? I just noticed that Amazon has a ton of these -- more than 30 that I can find. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure yet. I was in Target last week, and they had some Genius copies with a sticker pasted on the bottom of the back cover with some copyright information that mentioned Warner Home Video. So I think until they sell off old stock, this is what they'll do during the transition. It remains to be seen how different the Elmo one will be next month. (Part of me actually wants to buy it, just to compare the actual disc and inside packaging, because Sony pressed the Genius ones!) I know that catalog numbers will change to a whole new series, but as far as the outside, I'm not sure. I know that Amazon sometimes would have a Sony cover for a Genius entry, and vice versa. Genius was a little unusual, because they carried over Sony numbering for titles that had been on Sony, but the new ones started with SS. Plus, I've never seen a Genius pressing of Old School 1, and I don't know if Warner is going to reissue both Old Schools. I hope they do! So the short answer is, yes, I think Amazon is treating these as "new" Warner titles if they have the transition sticker, but for our purposes, I wouldn't count it unless they actually change the catalog number and copyright information. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:45, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * So where are these covers coming from? We don't have them on the wiki, as far as I know... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:46, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's another thing that's been weird. People (like Michael) have been reporting seeing Genius versions of things (like Christmas Eve) that I've never seen before. So I think there were Genius reissues in the pipeline, but then things seemed to stop when they announced the Warner deal, and now all of a sudden I'm seeing Genius boxes with Warner stickers on the back. If we don't have them, then we can use them, but we'll have to unravel who actually put them out. Transitions are always a mess. I have some Random House VHS titles with Sony barcodes pasted on the back! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was really surprised to see these -- more than 30 "new" releases, all at once. It does feel like a floodgate opened as soon as it became 2010. I guess we could put all these on the Sesame Video category talk page until we figure out where they're coming from; we can wait for them to show up in stores and then look at the boxes. :) -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:44, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's nice to know they'll be handled by a major again. There are also a bunch of entries at www.wbshop.com. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, well, that clinches it for me. It's 2010, these are new covers, and Warner's selling them on their site. I think it's okay to draw the obvious conclusion -- these are the new Warner Bros editions. Let's enjoy them. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:52, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * All 114 of them! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Holy cow, that's kind of a lot. By the way, here's some more evidence that these are the new editions -- this listing for All-Star Alphabet on Amazon has a release date of January 5, 2010. As you know, Amazon is always a little weird with re-release dates, so most of these are listed under the original DVD release dates, but that 2010 date says that this is the new stuff. Get ready... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:27, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was kidding about 114. It looks like there are some duplicate entries, and some entries might not be accurate. But I'll go through that tomorrow. And I'll be looking forward to Groundhog Day! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 06:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The MTV reference to "Wet Paint"
Just for the record: I know the song actually didn't air on MTV, but it had a parody of the channel, as you can view here. It's basically like the same deal with "The Letter N" by Nick Normal and the Nickmatics (or the official title, NTV), since even though the song never aired on MTV, it had its own MTV parody intro. Wattamack4 20:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention "A New Way to Walk" by the Oinker Sisters in my last summary (it's basically the same deal as well). Wattamack4 20:44, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Oh, okay, then you're thinking of Broadcasters, not Broadcasting. Broadcasting is for the real places that have aired Muppet content, like ABC and CBS. "Broadcasters" is for the fictional stations like KMUP and MuppeTelevision. And the MTV page is already in Broadcasters, and the MTV page also mentions the various parodies. So the song page itself wouldn't go in the Broadcasters category, but the MTV page would. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:05, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok. I noticed you did put "Broadcasters" in the page for the song, but you took it out pretty quick. Wattamack4 03:21, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * That was me messing up. I realized that songs themselves don't go in the Broadcasters category. Only the names of real networks. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:24, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. There's some articles like "Bushman Bill", "Nora Nicks", and "NTV" that have the same deal with "broadcasting" as one of the categories... do you think we should take them out? Wattamack4 03:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Alex


 * Actually, I was just looking at that. I think we may have some confusion as to what goes where. Let me bring it up on the talk page. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Obscure Joe Raposo
It's not really wiki-relevant, but I thought you might like to see this off-broadway recording of a Joe Raposo/Erich Segal musical from 1961... just for fun :) -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:01, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Joe started in musical theater. He also did the Raggedy Ann and Andy movie from 1977. Thanks for showing me that! That's a really little-known show and album! (I had to look it up in one of my reference books!) -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 05:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Soul Sesame Street
I found this album on a Japanese auction site -- Soul Sesame Street, by the Village Soul Choir. I don't think we have it on the wiki, so here's the pics that I took from the auction listing. I also found some information about the album on Franklin Mint Blog. What do you think? -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:16, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, there are 3 Peter Pan LP's. The 1st one has pre-existing songs from Season 1, the 2nd one has songs from SS1, and the 3rd one has songs from SS2. There are also a bunch of singles that go to these albums. I didn't know if you wanted to get into cover versions on 45's, because there are also singles that go to the other Sesame cover albums from children's labels during that period. -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:34, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it would be cool to put information on the 45s on the corresponding LP pages... -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 07:44, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Except that some 45's have songs pulled from 2 different albums. Plus, if somebody comes across a random 45 on Peter Pan, and tries to look it up here, they wouldn't always know where it came from. I think we should build something called "Album Appearances on Singles", or something like that. It would look like Sesame Street Singles, but they'd link to the Peter Pan album pages, and they'd all be on one page, so anybody looking for all cover singles will see them all together.


 * And just to add to your earlier comment about the audience of the time, a lot of people were very impressed (and are still impressed) with the unashamed funkiness of early Sesame music, especially the Roosevelt Franklin album. A lot of DJ's still look for used copies so they can sample it in clubs! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 08:00, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, cool -- I posted this stuff on your talk page because I knew that you would know the right thing to do with it. :) You should follow your heart. -- <font color="Blue">Danny (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Danny! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:43, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

A Late Merry Christmas
Hey Kenny babieeeeeeee!! (slaps Ken on the back) It's Kyle (which hasn't been around in long time) A very late Merry Christmas too you and your family. I've been meaning to come by ever so often but i forget to. Plus my parents computer is still has that thing going on with the pictures i save. It messes up everytime i want to look or do soemthing my pics i've saved. But i wanted to stop by and say A Late Merry Christmas to you and all so Very Late Merry Christmas, Ken!! Talk to you soon. -- <font color="Blue">Kyle (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 04:02, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, Kyle! A late Merry Christmas to you too! I was just thinking about you this week, and I'll send you an e-mail soon! -- <font color="Blue">Ken (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:11, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Talk to you soon. -- <font color="Blue">Kyle (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 10:39, December 30, 2009 (UTC)