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'''Astoria''' is the [[Spouses|wife]] of [[Statler and Waldorf|Waldorf]]. She appeared just once on ''[[The Muppet Show]]''. Her physical appearance resembles that of [[Statler and Waldorf|Statler]] in [[Cross-dressing characters|drag]]. [[Kermit the Frog|Kermit]] once declaired that Astoria is just as bad as the two old geezers who frequent the show—Waldorf corrected the frog, stating that his spouse is a "geezer''ess,''" only to be hit in the head by her for making such a comment.
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'''Astoria''' is the [[Spouses|wife]] of [[Statler and Waldorf|Waldorf]] who appeared just once on ''[[The Muppet Show]]'', in [[Episode 413: Dizzy Gillespie|episode 413]].
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Her physical appearance resembles that of [[Statler and Waldorf|Statler]] in [[Cross-dressing characters|drag]], and she wears a single flower in her hat. [[Kermit the Frog|Kermit]] declared that Astoria is just as bad as the two old geezers who frequent the show; Waldorf corrected the frog, stating that his spouse is a "geezer''ess''," only to be hit in the head by her for making such a comment.
   
When Statler was sick (of the Muppets' show), Astoria uses his ticket to attend the show with her husband. The couple visit [[the Muppet Theater]] to see the stage show with the Muppets' very special guest star [[Dizzy Gillespie]] ([[Episode 413: Dizzy Gillespie|episode 413]])
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When Statler was sick (of the Muppets' show), Astoria uses his ticket to attend the show with her husband. The couple visit [[The Muppet Theatre]] to see the stage show with the Muppets' guest star [[Dizzy Gillespie]].
   
Upon seeing the opening act, Astoria asks Waldorf how much the Muppets pay him, because who could imagine a "poor stupid turkey" going the show for nothing. To this, Waldorf sheepishly replies "gobble gobble." Later on, Astoria helps Waldof heckle [[Fozzie Bear]] during his [[Fozzie's Comedy Acts|comedy act]] by shouting out the punchlines to Fozzie's jokes before he can finish them in an attempt to rush the comedian off the stage.
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Upon seeing the opening act, Astoria asks Waldorf how much the Muppets pay him, because who could imagine a "poor stupid turkey" going to the show for nothing. To this, Waldorf sheepishly replies "gobble gobble." Later on, Astoria helps Waldorf heckle [[Fozzie Bear]] during his [[Fozzie's Comedy Acts|comedy act]] by shouting out the punchlines to Fozzie's jokes before he can finish them (in an attempt to rush the comedian off the stage).
   
Astoria often wonders why her husband keeps coming to this "irritating, mindless, incessant nonsense" while he could stay home with her. The only answer from Waldorf was "no comment."
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Astoria often wonders why her husband keeps coming to this "irritating, mindless, incessant nonsense" while he could stay home with her. The only answer from Waldorf was "no comment." She's later referenced in [[Episode 420: Alan Arkin|episode 420]] when Waldorf claims that she consumes a whole glass of [[Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde|Jekyll-Hyde]] potion every morning.
   
In the [[Ask Henson.com]] web column in the early 2000s, Muppet writer [[Jim Lewis]] was asked to provide information on Astoria.
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In the [[Ask Henson.com]] web column in the early 2000s, Muppet writer [[Jim Lewis]] was asked to provide information on Astoria:
 
{{quote|Astoria was married to Waldorf some time ago. We were unable to reach Astoria for more details, and Waldorf cannot remember anything past last Tuesday, for which he is eternally grateful.}}
 
{{quote|Astoria was married to Waldorf some time ago. We were unable to reach Astoria for more details, and Waldorf cannot remember anything past last Tuesday, for which he is eternally grateful.}}
   
Based on off-handed comments made by Waldorf in more recent years—including in ''[[Pepe's Profiles]]'' (2005), ''[[Statler & Waldorf: From the Balcony]]'' (2006), and an appearance on ''[[Extreme Makeover: Home Edition]]'' (2010)—it appears that Waldorf and Astoria are no longer married. Although it is not clear if this is due to [[divorce]] or [[Characters who have died|death]] (or if the comments are just the results Waldorf's wishful thinking or poor memory).
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Based on off-hand comments made by Waldorf in more recent years—including in ''[[Pepe's Profiles]]'' (2005), ''[[From the Balcony]]'' (2006), and an appearance on ''[[Extreme Makeover: Home Edition]]'' (2010), it appears that Waldorf and Astoria are no longer married. Although it is not clear if this is due to [[divorce]] or [[Characters who have died|death]] (or if the comments are just the results of Waldorf's wishful thinking or poor memory).
   
In the "20 Facts About The Muppets" video for [[The Muppets at YouTube Space LA|Mental Floss]], Statler and Waldorf speak about the hotels they are named after, Waldorf specifically mentioning he and Astoria being named after the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. Waldorf observes that she does not appear with the Muppets so much. Says Statler: "Can you blame her?"
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In the "20 Facts About The Muppets" video for [[The Muppets at YouTube Space LA|Mental Floss]], Statler and Waldorf speak about the [[Character name origins|hotels they are named after]], Waldorf specifically mentioning that he and Astoria were named after the [[Wikipedia:Waldorf Astoria New York|the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel]]. Waldorf observes that she does not appear with the Muppets so much. Says Statler: "Can you blame her?" During a [[Twitter]] Q&A on September 29, 2015, Waldorf was asked how Astoria is. He replied. "She's never been better!" Statler added, "Yeah, 'cause you're out of the house!" [https://twitter.com/TheMuppets/status/659873315650080769]
   
 
==Performer==
 
==Performer==
The exact performer of Astoria is not currently known. Credits for ''The Muppet Show'' did not list the specific characters performed by each puppeteer and any other official sources—such as annotated scripts, on-set photographs, or other production documents
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Astoria's performer was unclear for many years. Credits for ''The Muppet Show'' did not list the specific characters performed by each puppeteer and any other official sources (such as annotated scripts, on-set photographs, or other production documents) stating who performed this one-time-only character have not surfaced in the decades since the episode aired.
—stating who performed this one-time-only character have not surfaced in the decades since the episode aired.
 
   
Many fans have tried to identify the puppeteer of the character based on the vocal performance. Since the early days of [[:category:Muppet Fandom|Muppet online fandom]], speculation and debate has gone on with no clear concensus. Based solely on Astoria's limited appearance and dialog—including guesswork on vocal similarities to other characters, puppet movements, puppeteering styles, or other production logistics—fans have scrutinized and speculated over who the puppeteer may have been.<ref>See: [[Talk:Astoria|the "Astoria" Talk Page]] on Muppet Wiki</ref> Commonly theorized and suggested performers for the character include: [[Steve Whitmire]], [[Jerry Nelson]], [[Richard Hunt]], [[Dave Goelz]], [[Bob Payne]], and [[John Lovelady]], among others.
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Over the years, several discussions had attempted to identify the performer of the character based on the only audio available in the final cut of the episode. Based solely on Astoria's limited appearance and dialogue — including guesswork on vocal similarities to other characters, puppet movements, puppeteering styles, or other production logistics — fans have scrutinized and speculated over who the puppeteer may have been.<ref>See: [[Talk:Astoria|the "Astoria" Talk Page]] on Muppet Wiki</ref>
   
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[[Kathryn Mullen]] communicated to the Jim Henson Company archivist [[Karen Falk]] in 2007, that Astoria's performer was either [[Louise Gold]] or "one of the guys. It was not Bob Payne who wasn't really performing by then." (This, of course, was a misnomer; Payne was credited in [[Episode 407: Dudley Moore|episode 407]], produced in the same year as Astoria's appearance. He was also working extensively with the Muppets on ''Sesame Street'' that year). Falk confirmed at this time that the information was not included in any production files for the episode.<ref>e-mail communication between [[User:Scarecroe|Scott Hanson]] and [[Karen Falk]], May 22, 2007</ref>
When asked in a 2008 interview who performed Astoria, [[Steve Whitmire]] responded: "I ought to know that. But frankly, I don't remember. … It could have been me. I can't answer, I don't know!"<ref>[[Tough Pigs]]: [http://www.toughpigs.com/my-week-with-steve-day-2/ My Week with Steve]. October 2008.</ref>
 
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When asked in a 2008 interview who performed Astoria, Steve Whitmire responded: "I ought to know that. But frankly, I don't remember. … It could have been me. I can't answer, I don't know!"<ref>[[Tough Pigs]]: [http://www.toughpigs.com/my-week-with-steve-day-2/ My Week with Steve]. October 2008.</ref>
   
 
In 2010, over 30 years after the episode with Astoria was produced, [[Jerry Nelson]] also remained uncertain of who the performer was. Nelson refuted playing the character himself and surmised that "it sounds like [[John Lovelady]], who was there for the first season of [The Muppet Show], but [[Bob Payne|Bobby Payne]] would be my second guess."<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/jerry.nelson.756/posts/152218948133529 Jerry Nelson on Facebook]. September 13, 2010.</ref>
 
In 2010, over 30 years after the episode with Astoria was produced, [[Jerry Nelson]] also remained uncertain of who the performer was. Nelson refuted playing the character himself and surmised that "it sounds like [[John Lovelady]], who was there for the first season of [The Muppet Show], but [[Bob Payne|Bobby Payne]] would be my second guess."<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/jerry.nelson.756/posts/152218948133529 Jerry Nelson on Facebook]. September 13, 2010.</ref>
   
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One of the more often recurring theories for Astoria's performers in online discussion was [[Bob Payne]]. During much of this time, Payne's repertoire hadn't clearly — or quite so firmly — been established. However, as more vocal evidence continued to turn up over the years, discerning a performance style from his characters became more evident. Specifically, audio comparisons between Astoria and three characters performed by Payne the same year on ''Sesame Street'' played a key role: an [[Anything Muppets|Anything Muppet]] dentist (in [[Episode 1247]]), [[Georgie (Anything Muppet girl)|Georgie]], and [[Bertha (Sesame Street)|Bertha]] (who is credited as Payne in the script for [[Episode 1207]]).<ref>Muppet Wiki forum discussion at [[Thread:256699]]</ref>
Muppet historian, [[Craig Shemin]] has stated that he once knew the answer but has since forgotten; however he offered that there's a good chance it was either Richard Hunt or Steve Whitmire.
 
 
:<small>'''Note:''' [[Muppet Wiki (website)|Muppet Wiki]] does not report facts or make claims based on conjecture or presumptions; without a citable source for who performed Astoria, the performer designation will simply have to remain a mystery.</small>
 
   
 
==Notes==
 
==Notes==
* Statler and Waldorf [[Character name origins|derive their names]] from two [[New York City]] hotels. Statler was named after the Statler Hotel (which was renamed the Hotel Pennsylvania in 1992), while Waldorf and his wife Astoria get their names from [[Wikipedia:Waldorf Astoria New York|the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel]].
 
 
* Although Astoria looks like Statler, there is no indication in the episode that the two are related. The possibility that Astoria is Statler's [[Twins|twin]] sister (and therefore Statler and Waldorf are brothers-in-law) has been cited in a number of places on the internet,<ref>Among others: [http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question49362.html funtrivia.com], [http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com/2006/05/happy-65th-birthday-sir-menzies.html timrollpickering], [http://www.order-order.com/2006/05/muppet-ming-muffs-pmqs-again.html Guy Fawkes' blog].</ref> however such a claim is pure conjecture. For more Internet urban myths, see the [[:Category:Rumors|rumors section]] of [[Muppet Wiki (website)|Muppet Wiki]].
 
* Although Astoria looks like Statler, there is no indication in the episode that the two are related. The possibility that Astoria is Statler's [[Twins|twin]] sister (and therefore Statler and Waldorf are brothers-in-law) has been cited in a number of places on the internet,<ref>Among others: [http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question49362.html funtrivia.com], [http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com/2006/05/happy-65th-birthday-sir-menzies.html timrollpickering], [http://www.order-order.com/2006/05/muppet-ming-muffs-pmqs-again.html Guy Fawkes' blog].</ref> however such a claim is pure conjecture. For more Internet urban myths, see the [[:Category:Rumors|rumors section]] of [[Muppet Wiki (website)|Muppet Wiki]].
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* Astoria is also the name of neighborhood in the New York City borough of Queens. The area is home to [[Kaufman Astoria Studios]], the production studio of ''[[Sesame Street]]'' since 1992.
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* Astoria is also the name of neighborhood in the New York City borough of Queens. The area is home to [[Kaufman Astoria Studios]], the production studio of ''[[Sesame Street]]'' since 1993.
   
 
==See also==
 
==See also==
*[[Statler and Waldorf's relatives]]
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* [[Statler and Waldorf's relatives]]
   
 
==Sources==
 
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Revision as of 01:24, 12 November 2019

Astoria
PERFORMER Bob Payne
DEBUT 1979
Waldorf and Astoria heckle Fozzie

Waldorf and Astoria heckle Fozzie.

TMS413-09

Astoria is the wife of Waldorf who appeared just once on The Muppet Show, in episode 413.

Her physical appearance resembles that of Statler in drag, and she wears a single flower in her hat. Kermit declared that Astoria is just as bad as the two old geezers who frequent the show; Waldorf corrected the frog, stating that his spouse is a "geezeress," only to be hit in the head by her for making such a comment.

When Statler was sick (of the Muppets' show), Astoria uses his ticket to attend the show with her husband. The couple visit The Muppet Theatre to see the stage show with the Muppets' guest star Dizzy Gillespie.

Upon seeing the opening act, Astoria asks Waldorf how much the Muppets pay him, because who could imagine a "poor stupid turkey" going to the show for nothing. To this, Waldorf sheepishly replies "gobble gobble." Later on, Astoria helps Waldorf heckle Fozzie Bear during his comedy act by shouting out the punchlines to Fozzie's jokes before he can finish them (in an attempt to rush the comedian off the stage).

Astoria often wonders why her husband keeps coming to this "irritating, mindless, incessant nonsense" while he could stay home with her. The only answer from Waldorf was "no comment." She's later referenced in episode 420 when Waldorf claims that she consumes a whole glass of Jekyll-Hyde potion every morning.

In the Ask Henson.com web column in the early 2000s, Muppet writer Jim Lewis was asked to provide information on Astoria:

Astoria was married to Waldorf some time ago. We were unable to reach Astoria for more details, and Waldorf cannot remember anything past last Tuesday, for which he is eternally grateful.

Based on off-hand comments made by Waldorf in more recent years—including in Pepe's Profiles (2005), From the Balcony (2006), and an appearance on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (2010), it appears that Waldorf and Astoria are no longer married. Although it is not clear if this is due to divorce or death (or if the comments are just the results of Waldorf's wishful thinking or poor memory).

In the "20 Facts About The Muppets" video for Mental Floss, Statler and Waldorf speak about the hotels they are named after, Waldorf specifically mentioning that he and Astoria were named after the the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. Waldorf observes that she does not appear with the Muppets so much. Says Statler: "Can you blame her?" During a Twitter Q&A on September 29, 2015, Waldorf was asked how Astoria is. He replied. "She's never been better!" Statler added, "Yeah, 'cause you're out of the house!" [1]

Performer

Astoria's performer was unclear for many years. Credits for The Muppet Show did not list the specific characters performed by each puppeteer and any other official sources (such as annotated scripts, on-set photographs, or other production documents) stating who performed this one-time-only character have not surfaced in the decades since the episode aired.

Over the years, several discussions had attempted to identify the performer of the character based on the only audio available in the final cut of the episode. Based solely on Astoria's limited appearance and dialogue — including guesswork on vocal similarities to other characters, puppet movements, puppeteering styles, or other production logistics — fans have scrutinized and speculated over who the puppeteer may have been.[1]

Kathryn Mullen communicated to the Jim Henson Company archivist Karen Falk in 2007, that Astoria's performer was either Louise Gold or "one of the guys. It was not Bob Payne who wasn't really performing by then." (This, of course, was a misnomer; Payne was credited in episode 407, produced in the same year as Astoria's appearance. He was also working extensively with the Muppets on Sesame Street that year). Falk confirmed at this time that the information was not included in any production files for the episode.[2]

When asked in a 2008 interview who performed Astoria, Steve Whitmire responded: "I ought to know that. But frankly, I don't remember. … It could have been me. I can't answer, I don't know!"[3]

In 2010, over 30 years after the episode with Astoria was produced, Jerry Nelson also remained uncertain of who the performer was. Nelson refuted playing the character himself and surmised that "it sounds like John Lovelady, who was there for the first season of [The Muppet Show], but Bobby Payne would be my second guess."[4]

One of the more often recurring theories for Astoria's performers in online discussion was Bob Payne. During much of this time, Payne's repertoire hadn't clearly — or quite so firmly — been established. However, as more vocal evidence continued to turn up over the years, discerning a performance style from his characters became more evident. Specifically, audio comparisons between Astoria and three characters performed by Payne the same year on Sesame Street played a key role: an Anything Muppet dentist (in Episode 1247), Georgie, and Bertha (who is credited as Payne in the script for Episode 1207).[5]

Notes

  • Although Astoria looks like Statler, there is no indication in the episode that the two are related. The possibility that Astoria is Statler's twin sister (and therefore Statler and Waldorf are brothers-in-law) has been cited in a number of places on the internet,[6] however such a claim is pure conjecture. For more Internet urban myths, see the rumors section of Muppet Wiki.

See also

Sources

  1. See: the "Astoria" Talk Page on Muppet Wiki
  2. e-mail communication between Scott Hanson and Karen Falk, May 22, 2007
  3. Tough Pigs: My Week with Steve. October 2008.
  4. Jerry Nelson on Facebook. September 13, 2010.
  5. Muppet Wiki forum discussion at Thread:256699
  6. Among others: funtrivia.com, timrollpickering, Guy Fawkes' blog.