In Development Series

I'm glad that Brad created this category -- Sesame is creating more of these short-form series, and it's good to have Elmo's World, Bert & Ernie's Adventures, Abby's Flying Fairy School etc in one place.

However -- some of these are still In Development, and it's possible they may never be shown. Goodnight, Elmo, Munchin: Impossible and Count TV were announced in August, and so far, there's no indication that they've been picked up anywhere.

Brad created an [[:Category:Elmo's Backyard|Elmo's Backyard category]], with pages on the show, the location and three characters. Right now, Sesame Workshop's site has one page of information about Elmo's Backyard. We have five pages. And that is the sum total of information on the internet about the show. I think having 80% of the pages in the world about this show means that our coverage is kind of excessive right now.

So I think we should follow our usual In Development guidelines. In Dev stuff gets one page, which is only categorized within In Dev until it exists. At that point, we can go nuts on it. :) -- Danny (talk) 02:03, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

As kind of a related question, how are we defining what goes here? I'm confused as to what constitutes a short form series. To me, Sesame Street has had recurring series ever since the first day, with things like the Number Song series, the Painter films, Monsterpiece Theater, and Super Grover. Are these considered something different because of their length? -- Ken (talk) 03:14, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
I think the bigger distinction is that these have existences outside of the show. Elmo's World quickly became a separate show in other countries, while every one of the others were in fact produced and/or (for those that may not have progressed beyond pilot and concept yet) pitched as solo series for other markets and select segments have aired on the US series (in particular with Bert & Ernie's Great Adventures, dozens have aired in the UK or Australia and so on but haven't surfaced here yet). Apart from that note, I agree with Danny on that (I've always opposed breakout "In Development" articles beyond the main subject anyway, it's awkward and odd, and easier to deal with things once they're out, as impatient as we get sometimes). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 03:22, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
I merged the Elmo's Backyard pages for now, as they weren't even good articles (just quoting the press kit). If the we want to put the unreleased one just in "In Development" that's fine. Some have been actually been produced (Munchin: Impossible and Elmo's Backyard) so I think it's likely we'll see them some day. But I don't think we know the status of the others (has Count TV even gotten off paper?). -- Brad D. (talk) 04:02, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I think the In Dev system works for us. Silly Storytime was categorized In Dev until yesterday, when it was actually released; then it goes into Sesame Street Video. Were we sure in mid-January that it was going to come out? Yeah, of course. But that system helps us keep track of what's been released and what hasn't. Being consistent about it helps. -- Danny (talk) 23:06, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
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