It may not feel like it, but it's already been over two years since we last touched on this topic (and who knew then that we wouldn't be getting a new Thog series!).
With an explosion of Fraggle content forthcoming—and yet keeping our recast conditions from last time in mind to ground us—I think it's high time we add John Tartaglia to Gobo's performer box, as his casting predates the new series and now meets the requisite timespan and prominence.
I'm currently mixed on emphasizing the other recasts for the near future. A thirteen-episode season of Fraggles is certainly more substantial than any sparse content featuring the recast likes of Robin or Mumford, and yet, I think longevity (whether it gets more seasons, and if there are potential re-recasts) factors into considering these major enough to highlight. Does our criteria of five years/productions apply here, or should we lessen because it's a series? Where do we stand on this? — Jon (talk) 20:30, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to add John to Gobo's performer box. I'm not sure about the others; Wembley has had two different performers in the last two years (one is obviously more prominent, though). I think maybe if/when a secons season of the show gets greenlit we can consider it more. - Shane (talk) 20:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Likewise agreed that John Tartaglia as Gobo meets all the critera we've set. The first season hasn't dropped yet and we're missing cast info still, so at the very least I'd say none of the other boxes should be changed until all the episodes are available. I'm kind of inclined to go with Shane, that a second season would be more useful, and for now do casting histories. In particular, the Gorg boxes could pose a challenge. Someone tried to change Junior Gorg and that resulted in five names and also a mess because they kept putting in Fraggle Rock: Back to the Rock rather than a season or year as we usually do. The Gorg performers, and a few others mostly secondary, changed over the course of the original series, and right now it wouldn't shock me if we find some changes even within this first season.
- So Gobo, as the most prominently used Fraggle in other contexts and the most consistently performed apart from original performer continuity (hi, Karen Prell!), I vote yes. The rest, wait and see (especially as, given the new "Doc," we're likely to have Nanny/Miss Nanny situations where there's an equivalent character not meant to be the original, and so on). Since Goelz is still voicing his characters, casting history feels like the best way to handle those anyway until a span becomes really notable or vocal work done (how we handled Big Bird for some time, for example). -- Andrew 20:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- I think it would be appropriate to include all the new performers in the character boxes. We established rules for recasts mostly with the idea that they were happening sporadically in random talk shows, background cameos, and other minor appearances over the course of a handful of years. Back to the Rock is a new, major TV show and it doesn't feel right to not have the new performers listed there. —Scott (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)