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Heya folks. As we now appear to be in the homestretch for coverage of the Category:Sesame Street Episode Guide, I thought it would be prudent to post some reminders as it's not always easy to keep so many things in mind as we plow through these.

As with everything else, please be aware of Muppet Wiki:Policies and Guidelines. In particular, Muppet Wiki:Image Policy has recently been updated to include a line item about cropping TV gutter space from screenshots. There are some other helpful guidelines in there about resizing and format, etc.

Completing an episode guide isn't just about filling in the missing images. Here are some other things to consider for inclusion:

• Most of the street scenes for episodes left to complete were written based on scripts before the episode was finalized, and may therefore be different. In these cases, the descriptions should be updated to reflect the aired version. In some cases (but not all), it may be appropriate to include the script description, when it's notable. See the changes made to Scene 4 in Episode 0401, for example. We've been logging some of those at Sandbox:Script inconsistencies.

• The script differences also extend to the segments used in the episode. Check to make sure the segments filled in from the scripts are the same as the final episode and make any appropriate changes.

• Mentions of character family members for coverage in Category:Family Groups.

• References to books, TV, movies, and other outside media for coverage in Category:References.

• Adding episodes to character filmographies, or at least noting one-off character performers in parentheses to making finding these easier using Special:WhatLinksHere.

• If an episode was a repeat with a different episode number, be sure the street story descriptions and screenshots match.

• "Closing Signs" at the end of episodes should be marked as a collapsible element using {{collapsible|yes}}

• Be thoughtful with screenshot selections. In most cases, one per scene is sufficient. When more is necessary, try to choose shots that are visually distinct, include the most important characters for the scene, and those that best depict what is being described.

• Noting performers for AMs and other one-offs to help with Category:Performer Filmographies. (Jerry Nelson's gallery is about to get a big surge!) Discussions related to this topic can be deployed at Forum:Character galleries.

• Checking other guides to see if a newly added sketch was repeated and making sure we copy the info over with appropriate {{first}} tags when applicable. A lot of these aren't linked, but may be findable by Googling the existing description like this.

• One-off actors and crew cameos, if identifiable. Shane and Andrew have been tracking some of these at Sandbox:Episodic actors on Sesame for eventual articles when sufficient information is available.

• Consideration for Sandbox:Alternate takes in Muppet skits.

• Please note that the dates found on the information slates found at the beginning of episode masters DO NOT represent the date when the episode was taped. Muppet Wiki has sourced taping dates to production documents available to select members. See also: Forum:Master tape slates.

• Don't forget that the SHOW PREVIEW button can (and should) be used to show you a preview of what your changes will look like before you hit the SAVE button. This ensures no errors are made that need to be fixed with subsequent edits.

This message is intended for editors contributing to the episode guide project. Questions unrelated to this topic will be ignored and/or removed. Thanks for your understanding. Questions and comments following the forum's guidelines that are directly related to this topic are welcome. Thank you! —Scott (talk) 13:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

While I was filling out the guide for Episode 0129, it became clear that this photo was taken while they shot the closing street scene. Should it go on the episode page now? CDCB2 (talk) 14:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

This is a good question with multiple occurrences, but I'm not sure we've ever decided on a uniform format for set photos to include on an episode guide. Very few pages are like Episode 1839 with a significant lead-in to put something like that, so the logical space would be below the table. I suppose a Gallery header at the bottom would be appropriate (we do this for episodes of The Muppet Show). Some photos may be noteworthy enough to also include in the article about that episode's season. —Scott (talk) 14:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I made sure to go over the image policy just to be safe. I have noticed a lot of the 70s shows have those annoying black bars around them. Those should absolutely be left out, correct? MackAttack92 (talk) 14:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Muppet_Wiki:Image_Policy#Alterations. —Scott (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

One other reminder we should have is to remove the "trusted" field from the {{episodesesame}} template when the segments and running order are confirmed with video, rather than scripts. — Jon (talk) 18:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)