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  • Not necessarily the ones that are clones of Wilkins ads but rather standalone ads, vaguely related “counterparts”, or ones that may or may not have a Wilkins counterpart (found counterparts for that matter). For instance, we could add a note about it at the beginning of the page and then add a separate section to the page featuring transcripts like the Dugan’s ad “Kneading” or the “Step Right This Way” ad for Community Coffee. Figured it’d be the least we can do because there’s still no clear-cut evidence of an official Wilkins “Bank Robber” ad

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    • If you want to start a separate page, go ahead, but do it in sandbox first. If we think it would work better merged with the existing page, we can do that later, but it would be less confusing to start out as its own project. (And it's been pointed out there is a Wilkins storyboard for a bank robber spot, which may or may not have been shot).

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  • Thank you for fixing that up. I greatly apologize that my wording wasn’t the best when I wrote that cause even I’ll admit, I was actually struggling to really figure out how to word it (I just felt the mention of his name origination really needed to be tweeked up a bit), but in the end, you certainly helped fix it for me. Thanks again!

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  • I thought you might have the knowledge to figure this out.

    re: the closing scene of Episode 2076; you can get the gist of the scene from there (or the docs), but Oscar responds to Bob's challenge with "You're on, Dennis." Do you know what that's in reference too?

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    • While it could be a reference based on the hat (only because Bob's wearing what looks like it could be a kid's baseball cap; Dennis the Menace wasn't generally hatted), it seems like another of Oscar's nicknames just to tweak the non-grouchy, in this case a "nice" sounding name (if context were different, I might think it was actually a reference to singer Dennis Day, who was an Irish tenor, but that just looks like coincidence.) But both the Menace and Day basically had wacky but harmless (and wholesome) personae. That's what seems most probable anyway.

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    • Ah well, thanks anyhow!

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  • Heya! May I inquire the reason as to why you unlinked Pestalozzi-Verlag on this page?

    And I don't just think "since we've got a page for it, why not link to it" (which can obviously lead to linkage overkill), but I do believe that these links are actually quite helpful; at least for wiki users who do not necessarily know that going through a linked image is an option to reach another page with more info.

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    • At the time, it was a redlink and only the single translation (publishers of only one title don't get pages). That's all (part of my routine clean-up, mostly related to Wanted Pages, since due to assorted problems from Fandom, is limited to 1,000 entries and can't be filtered out). So it was originally a "We don't have a page and I don't think we will" situation (which in all cases is subject to change if someone can actually populate it) and no further info being offered. You filled it in, so yay!

      EDIT: And in fact that link is *still* wrong anyway, because it lacked a dash. So I had to change it again.

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    • Gotcha! It makes sense now; t'was that dastardly-dashedy-dash! :D

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  • Hi, Andrew:

    Just wondering if the 'First' for the  'revised version' of  #10 segment in the Numerosity series should be Episode 0021 or Episode 0491.  I think this was the change where '10 bells' replaced '10 little Indians' as one of the features of the segment.  Thanks in advance.' 

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    • Yes but I don't even think there are any. They just have the original eka and "revised version" note.

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    • Actually, there are a couple, and I'm changing those.

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  • How do you feel about something similar to Sandbox:Episodic actors on Sesame, but with the voices for the animated pieces?

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    • On a similar note, do you recall where this edit about the alien cartoon came from? The docs give different voice credits.

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    • Yeah, unlike the Snyder stuff I'm sorting out, that's probably right. I'll give it another listen when I get time (it may have been simply misplacement, now that we've pinpointed a bunch of Mona Marshall segment; her resume, from an older version of her then-agency, just listed "various speaking and singing" for Sesame). The DeMaios did stage stuff in New York state but outside the city (i.e. Nyack) so no real voice reference for them. But in general, including their stuff for Reading Rainbow, I've since found out the Davises used NY-region talent, so it fits; that's not as big a deal now but location mattered for most of the animation outfits then (John Korty and Imagination Inc. used San Francisco people, for example).

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  • Hey, Andrew! After seeing your edit summary for when you created Rick Cimino, I hopped onto FamilySearch and added dates here after finding him in the CA Death Index. As definite confirmation, though, I found a couple obits for him afterwards:

    (Dunno if you have a Newspapers.com subscription, but if you don't, both pages have clippings -- from users for other obits and articles -- as well, which means if you click through them, you can see the whole page without a subscription.)

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    • Great work! I had a trail subscription which expired, but obits (or death indexes) are always a better source than Star Wars autograph sites and the like.

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  • Hi, Andrew:

    I see that you confirmed the voice of the animated series The Ringmaster as Rick Cimino.  However, in pursuance of the 'agreement' which you and Scott came to not too long ago, I went to Episode 3959 and removed the 'last appearance' comment from the Ringmaster segment there, and put it on the actual page for The Ringmaster instead (like we did with Jazz, Pinball Number Count, Mad Painter, and George the Farmer).  Just wanted to let you know.  Thanks. 

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    • Thanks but you really don't have to let us know because we changed something else on the sketch page. The question has already been settled so you're fine to make those specific corrections.

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    • OK, Andrew, just wondered.  I just wanted to be on the 'safe' side and ask others (esp. admins) before - or immediately after - making a change to see if it's in the 'realm' of acceptable,  Thanks for replying. 

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    • If it's something you suddenly thought of, ask. But when there's already been a consensus, letting someone know because they made an unrelated edit is overkill.

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    • Totally understand - I'll only ask if there's no 'established precedent.'

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  • Heya,

    I noticed that you took out a lot of descriptive colors from my recent additions of Muppet Babies clothes. I learned a lot in the past couple of years in terms of how much people with vision disabilities do appreciate these kinds of descriptions that might otherwise seem unnessessary or redundant to the seeing.

    I guess I'll be fine if the characters' pages HAVE to be shortened and therefore lose that descriptive info, but thought that it was even of value BECAUSE I was later differentiating between original and reboot designs.

    So, I wasn't just trying to fill up the page, but really tried to make a difference in keeping the visually impaired in mind - some of which have actually browsed this wiki. Just wanted to have that out there, since us folks of privilege might not always be privy to "looking" at things differently.

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    • Hi, Julian! I love your expansions to those pages in general. You may have missed this but we have this as a regular problem with users on Sesame Street pages (and sometimes elsewhere). They constantly want to describe every single thing in an image, especially title cards and logos, and we've been weeding that out from the beginning.

      I appreciate the thought on visual disabilities but I think that's a broader discussion worth having, rather than just doing on those specific pages (which are also the kind that attract our problem users, the too young, and the obsessive). But then we need to decide how to do it if we do, rather than just what seem like random "this is red" or "he is wearing shoes" sentences, which is exactly the kind of edit the aforementioned editors like to make.

      So it's not just privilege but an ongoing housekeeping issue. I think what we'd have to do, if we assume say a text to speech device is being used for the visually impaired, is create different descriptive versions or even the equivalent of a language wiki (that might be possible), since every page would really need that treatment for every image and character to actually be helpful (all book pages would need "Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie are walking a dog on the cover" and so on). If it's just for the color blind, that too would probably need to be handled differently (maybe even incorporated on the chart). Plus for instances like Baby Bunsen, the coloring varies for his nightgown even on the page itself.

      [Edited because I kissed you instead of missed you.]

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    • Fair enough.

      But losing the sentence "The reboot changes his diapers" on the li'l pup's page was... unfortunate. I knew that "exchanges" shoulda been used, but it's not often that I try my rusty language skills at humor! ;-P

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    • That one, I just plain missed, only thinking it was a verb slip. (And I'm usually good at punnery). So feel free to pamper him again!

      In fact, I just did by adjusting a preposition.

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    • Poopie-puppy-tastic! Thanks ;-D

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  • Can you now please block the user Tinyirnfist0? The message he or she has added on the previous message wall in the mean time is exactly the kind of hassle i was talking about.

    The allegation that the tradition is only 170 years old is also incorrect, the tradition has a longer history of which the exact start date is unknown. The same applies for the character Black Pete: it is much older than 170 years and the exact start date for Black Pete is also unknown.

    Regards,

    PowerWikiNL

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    • Dude. Knock it off.

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    • What Scott said, and what I keep telling both of you. If you want to argue with each other, do it somewhere else, not on Muppet Wiki. And if a thread is closed or removed, it's to prevent this kind of personal user disagreement. Don't bring it up on my or his wall again (this applies to both of you).

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