Antsamthompson9

Since Shane has done all the work on Sesame Street Memories, I thought I'd let him handle adding those videos to the page.

I didn't even notice these were uploaded; I never check that tab. I'll get to them tomorrow!

Okay. From now on, I'll clarify by saying the name of a song they wrote lyrics for in the edit summery. For instance, Chris Jackson wrote the lyrics for Rakhi Road.

The bigger thing is, don't just add based on infoboxes and the like. I'm cleaning that up now. If three to six names are credited, or even two, and we're not sure who did which, going with Composers is fine. Adding them all to composers and lyricists isn't.

Okay. I gotcha.

I'm going by the confirmed first appearances of the sketches that those characters debuted in.

You seem to be looking at the song dates, not the airdates; those first two were correct by Anthony's change.

Why are the dates on the song pages different from the dates on the sketch pages?

For example, Frankie Monster appeared in "Love the Ocean" which we say debuted in 1989, but the episode aired in 1990.

The template reflects when the song was written/copyrighted, not necessarily when it aired or was first released.

I didn't know that. Is that confusing?

How do we know "Herry's Family Song" was written in 1986?

It was taped January 7, 1987, so it can't have been written less than a week prior.

"Herry's Family Song" could have been written in 1985, but because it was taped in 1987, we're assuming one year before. That doesn't feel very solid.

I wonder if this is a bigger wiki conversation we should have about song dates.

That did not occur to me; seems plausible, and worth a discussion.

I think we did talk about song dates before, maybe not what we're talking here, but I feel there was a time when we talked about how a lot of song copyright dates (especially for the first season) tend to be for when the season ends (such as the theme song being copyrighted 1970 instead of 1969), But now that more firsts have been confirmed, it seems like a lot of copyright dates do reflect the start of their respective seasons. 

I've also been wondering if we could use at least a sandbox page for segments that were held over until a later season, if we have enough confirmed instances. Seems there's a lot of segments where the first broadcast appearance is a season later than what's been confirmed on DVD and other sources (some widely sourced; for example, I feel it's widely sourced that "Pinball Number Count" was made in season 7 but none of them aired until season 8). 

That's a good point, too. I've come across at least a handful of those.

Where are you finding song copyright dates? As far as I remebe the last time I looked up anything on ASCAP, it didn't come with a date.

Most copyright dates we have are sourced from album liner notes, songbooks and lyric sheets, and in some cases, the Copyright Catalog.

Thanks for the tip.

Anytime

Hey again. Is something wrong with the medialink template? I see you removed it from a bunch of pages.

I think that by just linking to images, the images will show up in more than just the sandbox page when you use WhatLinksHere. For instance:https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Slate29.png

That's a valid observation. I might be able to fix that.

And another thing: I think it's kinda annoying how the medialink template makes you go all the way to the beginning of the page, so after you X out of that, you have to scroll all the way back to where you were. I can just see that being frustrating for readers.

Please. No emojis in video file names.

I'm sorry, but I don't have the ability to rename files.

Can you see this image?

How do I get those instructions? I just put in the URL and it appears on the wiki.

It's on every edit page...

Video tool demo

Add a photo to this gallery

Thank you. Let me try this again.

Thanks for the tip.

Also, and this one may be your editor, but if you're doing it intentionally, there's no need to remove spaces between text and the categories. It's easier to edit with a space between.

I promise to wait a little to see if someone is already adding links.

I think that's the editor. It's not intentional on my part.

Is there a diff link example I can look at for the space removal bug?

There's the Parker Lewis page mentioned, here, and a couple months back there was this.

This happens periodically, but since some of the same editors also remove other spaces in the article (like between info boxes and article text), it's not always clear to me how many of them are bugs and how many just someone's editing habits. This one and a few others by User:Tinyirnfist0 might be on purpose.

Oh, yeah. That happens for everybody unless they've checked "Disable Category module" in here. That's a secondary reason why __NOWYSIWYG__ is helpful at the bottom of edit pages: it helps with the spacing.

Just a reminder, please pause at least a few minutes after I've created a page. We're edit conflicting again, since you usually just want to fix a link and I like to correct or add anything else needed on a given page. (Otherwise I'll just have to start laying all the redlinks first to avoid it.) Thanks!

Alright.

And another reminder on context. Please read the sentences you're adding links to. Jamaica Bay is a US national park, no relation to the country.

My bad.

You did wait seven minutes from my last action this time, but please, wait longer. I managed to save it this time at least, but a lot can be lost for the sake of a period or a letter. I know you like to be helpful and most of the time you are, but please remember you don't have to make those edits the instant someone else starts a page, or while they're still on the Wiki. I'd honestly suggest twenty minutes to a half hour as a pause time unless it's clear they're done for the moment.

I'll try to remember that.

And it almost happened again. Fortunately you made a change before I added the images, but please, Anthony. Listen when I ask you to wait. *Now* I'm done with that page.

Fixing disambigs, adding links, spaces, and the other stuff you do is useful but not when it gets in the way of larger page building. I know you usually make quick small edits. If you really feel you'll miss the change if you wait later, bookmark the page for yourself to get back to.

And if I leave a message saying "Wait before working on this page I'm working on," after saying you'll try, don't make your next edit on that very page. (Checking the time stamps, one minute after you replied to my suggestion of a 20 to 30 minute wait if the editor is still active.)

I'm sorry. I promise I'll be more cautious from now on.

I'll try to keep that in mind.

Yes. I'll try to remember that every time from now on.