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Video vs. Online

Scott and I had been talking here about whether to call the availability of a clip on sesamestreet.org a "Video release" or an "Online release". Any thoughts on it? -- Ken (talk) 02:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

"Online release" is a clunky phrase, but I'd like to keep a separation between video/DVD releases and a clip being available on a website. Those are really different things.

Maybe the "release" word is confusing -- possibly "Video releases" and "Available online"? -- Danny (talk) 02:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I like that. Otherwise, it is confusing and conflating rather distinctly different things. The internet isn't really a video format or a place for releasing videos specifically. It's online availability, when you get down to it, and with Sesame Workshop uploading the same material to multiple websites (sesamestreet.org, itunes, Hulu, YouTube, and so on) in a way that's not at all comparable to individual VHS or DVD titles, the distinction really is useful to maintain. I think "Online availability" is the best phrasing, though we may want to bring up whether we want to list multiple sites if they all have the same clip, or just go with Sesamestreet.org. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 02:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, if it's really just something that we're using for Sesamestreet.org, then maybe having a heading isn't the right way to go. Maybe just include it as a sentence in the article, or make a little box for it or something? -- Danny (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, sometimes I wonder if we should even list online availability, since that could change at any time. Audio and video releases will always exist, even if they're out of print, and noting that is very useful to collectors (like me) to find what they're looking for. But I understand if other people want to track a song or clip's online availability. And as a side note, we already use "online" as an option in the sketch release box on pages like Ernie and Bert Sketches: Apartment, so I think to be consistent, we should also make a matching heading on stuff like the song pages. So part of me likes keeping track of online availability; it's just a matter of what to call it. -- Ken (talk) 03:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Merchandise naming conventions

I added a section on merchandise naming conventions. I've been working on this system for a bunch of months now, but not really explained it, and I know it's been kind of mysterious -- especially because I haven't actually gone through and fixed everything, so it's still a bit of a mish-mash.

Anyway -- this is open for conversation or questions or whatever. -- Danny (talk) 02:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Question

What about links to outside lyric sites? Some of the Bear in the Big Blue House CD's have them, but I haven't seen them on any other albums. -- Ken (talk) 03:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

That's not an issue. Links to outside content, barring the usual suspects and limitations (commercial websites, YouTube, etc.) aren't a problem. The policy is that we don't allow lyric transcriptions here. Most of the Bear in the Big Blue House links are left over from User:Agent0042, who loved the show and its lyrics, and mostly linked to pages he'd created to house such things. Nobody else really cared about it, and I personally don't think it's necessarily worth tying a lyric site link to every song. But it wouldn't hurt if it's particularly notable or the site well done, or in cases like "I Want a Monster to Be My Friend" where lyrical content is relevant, and so on. Basically, though, it's just something only one user really wanted to do, which is why it's only evident in that one area. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 04:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)