Talk:Ernie & Bert Show

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Category?

I just came across this today, and figured it was unusual and noteworthy enough to deserve its own page. However, I'm not sure how to categorize it, outside of game shows. I really don't want to just lump it in the larger Sesamstrasse category (I still don't like mixing subcats and articles whenever possible). Do we go ahead and create Category:International Sesame Street Sketches? Right now, this is the first completely new, recurring segment for an international Sesame Street show we've come across (though I think there's at least a few unique recurring animated segments on a few of the series, and there either are or soon might be others which would be worth noting). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

What a fabulous little find, I love it. The category is tricky -- I'd like to keep it in the Sesamstrasse category, if possible. How about Sesamstrasse Sketches?

On another subject, what do you think about changing the title to "Der Ernie & Bert Show"? I know it says "Ernie & Bert Show" on the website, but the photo caption says "Bert ist Moderator der "Ernie & Bert Show"". I think it's probably announced on-screen as "Der Ernie & Bert Show". -- Danny (talk) 13:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I will hopefully soon start to tape the Sesamstrasse shows again, so i can provide more info on these. About a new category I think it would be a good idea in the long run. A Sesamstrasse skecthes category would be a good idea to begin with, and once other recurring sketches from other countries can be added then a general category can be made Henrik 14:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Bit of a grammar correction: it would be Die Ernie & Bert Show instead of Der Ernie & Bert Show. In the sentence you just posted, Der means "of the", as in "Bert is the host of the Ernie & Bert Show". Germany has 16 variations of the word the. Has something to do with the word gender: in this case, Show is feminine and goes with Die, as in Die Muppet Show. -- Jogchem 14:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, okay. So do you think we should change it to "Die Ernie & Bert Show"? -- Danny (talk) 15:23, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd rather not use "Die," not least because it doesn't show up in any google searches (save for one page), and doesn't seem to actually be used by anyone in promoting it Grammar or not, all German press releases use this phrasing: der, and in quotes "Ernie & Bert Show," or just "Ernie & Bert Show." This applies to me, anyway, that the article is not part of the title; nothing uses "Die Ernie & Bert Show." But if you think we really need to use it (and I think Jog's point about grammar proves we don't), then I'd rather use what the NDR people are using, however odd it is. If at some point we can *prove*/confirm that it's announced with an article of some kind, I'd be fine with changing it. But right now, it seems too much like adding whatever *we* think should be there, not what's necessarily being used. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 18:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)