What episode or sketch did Patina appear in? She doesn't look familiar to me at all, and I've seen all the JHH episodes. -- Danny Toughpigs 22:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've maybe only seen one episode of JHH. I've only seen her in Cliff's Nightmare. -- Scott Scarecroe 22:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- So where'd the info about JHH come from? -- Danny Toughpigs 23:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- Supposedly she was from the series, from talk on Muppet Central forums (though I know that can't always be trusted), referring to her as "the baby" from the series, and from a more reliable source, designer Jean Guy White's page here, which has an image much like the one Scott put up, only the full cloth the puppet's laid against isn't shown, but yeah, I'd only seen her in the Cosby Show episode myself, where she's slightly different. I think the image may be a prototype rather than the actual puppet used for filming, as I don't see how it could have been operated. In Cliff's Nightmare, she has a bigger head and bobbles a bit, "la la laing" right before Cliff enters the hospital. Or possibly she was built for the series but never actually used there. Incidentally, I'm tempted to just link to whole pages of White's portfolio on Name That Puppet, as there's a bunch of characters, especially from Fraggle Rock and a few The Animal Show guys, who could use names (only Fraggle characters I could place right off were Mavis the Mirror and the Inkspots). And I posted a question about a character from his site on Environmental Show page. --Andrew, Aleal 23:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think she was on JHH. I can't remember any sketch with a baby. I've only seen Cliff's Nightmare once, and that was years ago, so this character doesn't look familiar to me at all. But I've seen all the Henson Hours over the last couple years. -- Danny Toughpigs 23:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- In light of that, I'm altering the text. It's still possible she was used as a background extra on the series, but it's looking more likely that she was commissioned but not actually put into use until Cosby Show (given both the portfolio evidence and, unlike Disagreeable Sandwich, her role is so tiny I can't imagine her being built just for that, when even Hypocritic Oaf was a recycled bit player). --Andrew, Aleal 23:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- Also likely, Danny just doesn't remember her in JHH. But Andrew's revised text covers it well, until we know for sure. -- Scott Scarecroe 15:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- In light of that, I'm altering the text. It's still possible she was used as a background extra on the series, but it's looking more likely that she was commissioned but not actually put into use until Cosby Show (given both the portfolio evidence and, unlike Disagreeable Sandwich, her role is so tiny I can't imagine her being built just for that, when even Hypocritic Oaf was a recycled bit player). --Andrew, Aleal 23:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think she was on JHH. I can't remember any sketch with a baby. I've only seen Cliff's Nightmare once, and that was years ago, so this character doesn't look familiar to me at all. But I've seen all the Henson Hours over the last couple years. -- Danny Toughpigs 23:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- Supposedly she was from the series, from talk on Muppet Central forums (though I know that can't always be trusted), referring to her as "the baby" from the series, and from a more reliable source, designer Jean Guy White's page here, which has an image much like the one Scott put up, only the full cloth the puppet's laid against isn't shown, but yeah, I'd only seen her in the Cosby Show episode myself, where she's slightly different. I think the image may be a prototype rather than the actual puppet used for filming, as I don't see how it could have been operated. In Cliff's Nightmare, she has a bigger head and bobbles a bit, "la la laing" right before Cliff enters the hospital. Or possibly she was built for the series but never actually used there. Incidentally, I'm tempted to just link to whole pages of White's portfolio on Name That Puppet, as there's a bunch of characters, especially from Fraggle Rock and a few The Animal Show guys, who could use names (only Fraggle characters I could place right off were Mavis the Mirror and the Inkspots). And I posted a question about a character from his site on Environmental Show page. --Andrew, Aleal 23:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- So where'd the info about JHH come from? -- Danny Toughpigs 23:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)