Talk: Sesame Street (location)

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The Subway Station article mentions "...it is commonly held that Sesame Street is located in an unspecified outer borough of New York City..." I'm not challenging that statement, but I thought this depiction was an interesting contrast to the idea behing the geographical position of the street in New York. If I'm not mistaken, that's supposed to be the Brooklyn Bridge connecting to Manhattan island where this interpretion suggests is the location. Misleading or incorrect, it's interesting nonetheless and I don't know how to include it in the article if at all. -- Scott (talk) 19:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, does it make more or less sense that the marker indicates the location as the West Side? -- Scott (talk) 19:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. What's the picture from? -- Peter (talk) 19:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

It's the closing credits backdrop from every episode starting in (I have no idea what year, but recently). -- Scott (talk) 20:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm the one who put the "commonly held" thing in the Subway Station entry, but it looks like I'm wrong. I still don't buy that Sesame Street's in Manhattan, but I guess that's me. -- Peter (talk) 21:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that you're wrong. It could just be one of those things. Mostly I thought it was an interesting anecdote. -- Scott (talk) 21:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've always been a bit confused, what is the distinction between Manhattan and New York City? The map in Follow That Bird definitely pinpoints it as in New York state, and I *think* the city, and Mayor David Dinkins gave Gordon a good citizenship award, but if Manhattan is a borough or what have you that would still hold. Also, someone might check the The Street We Live On DVD. I left mine in Syracuse, but the full address of Oscar's Can is given, and it would be worth checking to see if New York City is mentioned. Andrew Leal (talk) 18:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sesame Street is definitely in New York City, it's just a question of where. Manhattan is one of many boroughs, but it's commonly believed that Sesame Street wouldn't be in Manhattan given the "neighborhood-y" feel perhaps. Other boroughs include The Bronx, Queens (Astoria), Staten Island and Brooklyn -- all of which are in New York City. -- Scott (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sesame Street's zip code is given as 10123, which is in Manhattan. Add it all up and I'm pretty sure SS is supposed to be in Manhattan, and not one of the outer boroughs. -- Erik (talk) 23:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

What's the source on the zip code? -- Scott (talk) 00:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Zip Code 10023 is in Manhattan, but it's smack dab near Wall Street, where Sesame Street would definitely not be. I say we take out the stuff on the outer boroughs and say that while they've never stated exactly where Sesame Street is (hence, the theme song), this information suggests that Sesame Street is in Manhattan...then list the information. If there's contradictory information, we list that, too. -- Peter (talk) 04:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Been a while since this was last discussed, but the ZIP was shown in one of the first Mail-It Shop episodes. It also happens to be the zip for Sesame Workshop, thus a deliberate cop-out by the production designers, not wanting to pin-point Sesame Street as anywhere. -- Zanimum 19:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I am such an idiot. I used to live in 10023. It's not Wall Street. It's on the Upper West Side with the 1,2,A,B,C and D trains. Maybe we've pinpointed it after all. -- Peter (talk) 19:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No, that was me messing everyone up. It's 10123, not 10023. It is down in the Wall Street area, via Zip Codes at least. New idea: Anyone able to ID the buildings in behind the vet practice building? If we can ID at least one as being real, we can find it on Google Earth, and pull up the 3D view of NYC on that program. From there, it would simply be a matter of finding what angle that view would have been painted from, and how far away Sesame Street would be, so that the building would appear that height. Complicated yes, but the general idea's been floating in my brain for a few years now. -- Zanimum 19:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't go through all that trouble until there is a source on the zip code. -- Scott (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, don't have a source, I just remember seeing that zip code on a letter on the show, or something like that. -- Erik (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's possible to "pinpoint" the location of Sesame Street. It's fun to gather all the little clues, but I would expect them to all contradict each other. It's not like Sesame Workshop has some secret location in mind that they've stuck with all these years. It's a fantasy place. -- Danny (talk) 20:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

On Elmo's appearance on Rove Live, he gives a phone number with a 212 area code, which is Manhattan. -- Erik (talk) 22:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm with Danny. Sesame Street is wherever you want it to be. Aw, that's sweet, isn't it? Technically it's just somewhere in New York. Scooter 00:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Just tossing this out there as an addendum to any of the possible NYC locations of where you may like to believe Sesame Street is located. Episode 3697 (which I'm currently writing a guide for) zooms up from where the cast is standing in front of 123 and pans right up into space. On the way up, the camera seems to have zoomed out from the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Now, the closest bird's eye view isn't exactly a replica of what Sesame Street's city block might have looked like at that time with Around the Corner, but it does pretty closely match other sources such as Follow That Bird and various illustrated books. Nevertheless, it's highly suggested by the narrative and camerawork that we're zooming out from in front of 123 where the actionis taking place at the time. So, take that as you will. —Scott (talk) 02:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)