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Should this article be "Valley of the Mystics" or "The Valley of the Mystics"? While I'm at it, where does that picture come from? -- Danny (talk) 18:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm leaning toward adding a "the" because there's only one Valley of the Mystics, only one! Thank goodness for that--er, sorry, it's so easy to go off on a Muppet quote tangent. But anyway, it would be grammatically correct, because just plain Valley of the Mystics implies, just looking at the name, that there is more than one, and that would be confusing for people who have never seen the movie who assume that there's more than one. As for the picture, no idea, sorry. All I know is it was there when I wrote the extra information. Chunk 17:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
We're not adding "the" just to show there's only one, though (in fact, as seen in The Prefixed List, we're trying to avoid it). Rather, we're only using "the" if it's considered a part of the name and used as such in dialogue, like the Dubonnet Club or even the River. In this case, a "the" probably makes sense, assuming for the moment that the phrase was actually used in the movie or making of books, and isn't just a fan creation. Andrew 17:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the narrator used "the" in the movie, but my memory has a tendency to fail me so I'll watch it again. I don't have access to the making-of books, though, so maybe someone else could help with that. Chunk 16:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't matter, if you can confirm the "the" in the film. I just mentioned it as an alternate source. Andrew Leal (talk) 16:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I found an online transcript of the movie. The opening narration says: "In the Valley of the Mystics, there lives a Gelfling, Jen." So I moved the page to The Valley of the Mystics. -- Danny (talk) 15:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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