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Hey Alex? I mentioned in a talk page message back in March that forums aren't reliable sources and can't be cited. Sesame hasn't aired on the network in over five years, so at this point we basically can't, and don't have to, note it unless old video footage happens to turn up to work off of. Use the guidelines of Muppet Wiki:Sources as a filter when adding from a web site or article. Thanks. β€” Jon latest?cb=20200820192427 (talk) 15:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Alex. Whenever you intend to post images, keep the guidelines on Muppet Wiki:Image Policy in mind. If the filename is a random string of numbers and letters, remember to rename based on what the subject of the image is before uploading. Also, fuzzy camera snapshots of a computer screen don't look very good, so if a better quality image can't be found, it's probably best to avoid it. Thanks! β€” Jon latest?cb=20200820192427 (talk) 14:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

If I may add, your image for "10 Music Cases" was fine, but could you reupload it with a more suitable name? -- Tony (talk) 14:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Can do. BTLfan4 (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Nice job, thanks! -- Tony (talk) 15:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


Hi, per your change to Bruce Cayard, did you find an obituary or just use what's currently on IMDb? Per our Muppet Wiki:Sources, we try not to use IMDb unless info can be verified elsewhere. It might be true and it took someone five years to add it, but it doesn't include place of birth or death and could as easily be random (false IMDb claims of death or incorrect dates are not unknown). It does match with the 1938 date given by Copyright Encyclopedia, but if you have a more specific source, it would help. -- Andrew Emoji-drool.gifAdminsig.png 22:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I’ll ask PumpkinJ on the Muppet Central Forum, since they’re the one who gave me the information. By the way, can you tell me how to cite things? -- BTLfan4 (talk) 23:06, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
See Muppet Wiki:Sources linked in Andrew's message. You can either cite it in the article, which is explained on the page, or you can note the url (or title if it's a book or other media) in your edit summary. We don't use forum comments as sources, but if the person you're in contact with can provide an article or something that's reliable, we can accept that. β€” Jon latest?cb=20200820192427 (talk) 23:59, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Do you trust, because that’s where the source is. β€” BTLfan4 (talk) 01:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
We need an actual link or, if it's a pay ancestry site, a screengrab of the relevant page (but a full URL at least would be something we could vet with active users who might have subscriptions, or find another way to access). That way we can cite it. We can't really go by "another person told me he saw it on the site." Otherwise we just have to wait until an obituary appears or an actual user here with access can confirm. It all goes back to being able to cite a source for information when it isn't common knowledge or easily verifiable through standard reference sources. Notice how often we link to obituaries when someone dies, both for specific information but also (when it's not a major celebrity) just to confirm. -- Andrew Emoji-drool.gifAdminsig.png 02:53, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Try this: -- BTLfan4 (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Hmm, the site's sketchier than I thought. I was thinking it was one of those that has actual birth or death documents. If they do, they're not specifying (and no mention of 1938 there, although as I noted, that does show up in copyright registration). Right now, it's a potential lead, but just that they gathered "information from various public records & individuals" isn't a very specific or useful source for us. -- Andrew Emoji-drool.gifAdminsig.png 23:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


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PS: I know you've been here since 2017, Alex, but Fandom took away Message Wall and I wanted to make sure there was a welcome on your talk page :) β€”Scott latest?cb=20200820192427 (talk) 16:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)